• Cancelling People Doesn’t Make Us Safer - GUEST: Melissa Mackay (REBROADCAST)

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Cancelling People Doesn’t Make Us Safer - GUEST: Melissa Mackay (REBROADCAST)

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  • This episode originally aired September 7, 2022. Did this episode get you thinking, or did we miss the mark? Let us know by leaving us a message on SpeakPipe.Good friends will give truthful feedback, even when it’s embarrassing, because they care. It’s the spinach in teeth moment or the toilet paper dragging from the shoe. Better to hear it from them than to secretly get roasted by others who, see the missteps but, say nothing. Melissa Mackay is that kind of good friend.While driving along listening to the Cancel Culture episode from Season One, she was yelling back at the speakers about all the things she thought Chris and Jake didn’t get quite right. She reached out to Jake with some feedback and generously agreed to jump on the mic to help diversify the conversation.In this episode we talk about the issue of Sexualized Violence. We recognize this topic can be challenging and encourage you to take care as you listen. Below are some resources in the event you need support or want to learn more.For more information:https://www.rw.institute/Follow Disorienting Dilemma on Twitter:@podcastdilemmaResource and Support Links:US: National Sexual Violence Resource Center | National Sexual Violence Resource Center(NSVRC)Can: Ending Violence Association of Canada Find Help Across Canada - Ending ViolenceAssociation of CanadaCan you hear me now?: “By looking past the negative connotation that accompanies the phrase“cancel culture,” we can begin to hear the voices of those who were previously silenced by their marginalized and undue place in society’s hierarchy. Anne Charity Hudley, the chair of linguistics of African America at UC Santa Barbara, explained to Vox, “From my point of view, for Black culture and cultures of people who are lower income and disenfranchised, this is the first time you do have a voice in those types of conversations.”Cultivating Space to Learn: “There are blurry lines between being held accountable and getting cancelled. We live in a society that is seeking to redress historically imbalanced levels of accountability while still relying on a punitive justice system. We’re trying to fix an imbalanced system with broken tools. Advocating for accountability falls short when it doesn’t revolve around empathy. Restorative justice is the answer—but we’re not there yet.”Reverse Cancelled - Amber Heard: “Although jurors were considering civil libel claims and not criminal abuse charges, the verdict largely vindicated Depp’s allegations that Heard lied about abusing her. During testimony, Heard detailed dozens of instances of assault, and Deppemphatically denied ever abusing her. In 2020, a U.K. judge in a civil libel case found that Depp assaulted Heard on a dozen occasions. For Scartz, who directs the clinic at the University of Georgia’s law school, the concern is about the assumptions some will make that women are lying. She fears abusers may be newly emboldened to paint their accusers as liars in retaliation for them coming forward.”Can I come back yet?: “Thanks so much to our industry for once again telling us that survivors don’t matter,” tweeted writer and producer Sarah Ann Masse. To outraged critics, Louis CK’s comeback was like five years’ worth of progress undone. But looking back, it’s hard to believe we were ever so confident in our ability to permanently separate a massively successful entertainer from an audience that still clamoured for his work. Even when Louis CK began popping up at comedy clubs in late 2018, the response from media folks and comedy scene critics was a chorus of “too soons” — as if their opinions mattered, when audiences at these events greeted him with wild applause.”Trevor Noah on Twitter: “I said counsel Kanye not cancel Kanye”: “If you like me, or if you like anyone in your life, I hope you’d have the ability to say to that person, ‘Hey, I think what you’re doing here is wrong. I think you may be headed in a dangerous direction. And I’m saying that to you because I like you. I don’t discard you as a person,’” Noah said, before going on to hint that he hopes West can redeem himself in the eyes of the public. “I think we have gotten very comfortable discarding human beings, immediately tossing them away and making them irredeemable characters,” he said, in an apparent reference to “cancel culture.” “I think all of us should be afforded the opportunity to redeem ourselves. All of us should have an opportunity at redemption.”It’s about damn time: “Shortly after the post and the song's rerelease, disabled people praised Lizzo for being so receptive and for responding well to the community's feedback. Thompson noted, however, that she was not surprised that Lizzo responded the way that she did. Having done work in Black progressive spaces, Thompson has seen Black people who are not versed in disability but who actively work to do better. They know the importance of ...
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This episode originally aired September 7, 2022. Did this episode get you thinking, or did we miss the mark? Let us know by leaving us a message on SpeakPipe.Good friends will give truthful feedback, even when it’s embarrassing, because they care. It’s the spinach in teeth moment or the toilet paper dragging from the shoe. Better to hear it from them than to secretly get roasted by others who, see the missteps but, say nothing. Melissa Mackay is that kind of good friend.While driving along listening to the Cancel Culture episode from Season One, she was yelling back at the speakers about all the things she thought Chris and Jake didn’t get quite right. She reached out to Jake with some feedback and generously agreed to jump on the mic to help diversify the conversation.In this episode we talk about the issue of Sexualized Violence. We recognize this topic can be challenging and encourage you to take care as you listen. Below are some resources in the event you need support or want to learn more.For more information:https://www.rw.institute/Follow Disorienting Dilemma on Twitter:@podcastdilemmaResource and Support Links:US: National Sexual Violence Resource Center | National Sexual Violence Resource Center(NSVRC)Can: Ending Violence Association of Canada Find Help Across Canada - Ending ViolenceAssociation of CanadaCan you hear me now?: “By looking past the negative connotation that accompanies the phrase“cancel culture,” we can begin to hear the voices of those who were previously silenced by their marginalized and undue place in society’s hierarchy. Anne Charity Hudley, the chair of linguistics of African America at UC Santa Barbara, explained to Vox, “From my point of view, for Black culture and cultures of people who are lower income and disenfranchised, this is the first time you do have a voice in those types of conversations.”Cultivating Space to Learn: “There are blurry lines between being held accountable and getting cancelled. We live in a society that is seeking to redress historically imbalanced levels of accountability while still relying on a punitive justice system. We’re trying to fix an imbalanced system with broken tools. Advocating for accountability falls short when it doesn’t revolve around empathy. Restorative justice is the answer—but we’re not there yet.”Reverse Cancelled - Amber Heard: “Although jurors were considering civil libel claims and not criminal abuse charges, the verdict largely vindicated Depp’s allegations that Heard lied about abusing her. During testimony, Heard detailed dozens of instances of assault, and Deppemphatically denied ever abusing her. In 2020, a U.K. judge in a civil libel case found that Depp assaulted Heard on a dozen occasions. For Scartz, who directs the clinic at the University of Georgia’s law school, the concern is about the assumptions some will make that women are lying. She fears abusers may be newly emboldened to paint their accusers as liars in retaliation for them coming forward.”Can I come back yet?: “Thanks so much to our industry for once again telling us that survivors don’t matter,” tweeted writer and producer Sarah Ann Masse. To outraged critics, Louis CK’s comeback was like five years’ worth of progress undone. But looking back, it’s hard to believe we were ever so confident in our ability to permanently separate a massively successful entertainer from an audience that still clamoured for his work. Even when Louis CK began popping up at comedy clubs in late 2018, the response from media folks and comedy scene critics was a chorus of “too soons” — as if their opinions mattered, when audiences at these events greeted him with wild applause.”Trevor Noah on Twitter: “I said counsel Kanye not cancel Kanye”: “If you like me, or if you like anyone in your life, I hope you’d have the ability to say to that person, ‘Hey, I think what you’re doing here is wrong. I think you may be headed in a dangerous direction. And I’m saying that to you because I like you. I don’t discard you as a person,’” Noah said, before going on to hint that he hopes West can redeem himself in the eyes of the public. “I think we have gotten very comfortable discarding human beings, immediately tossing them away and making them irredeemable characters,” he said, in an apparent reference to “cancel culture.” “I think all of us should be afforded the opportunity to redeem ourselves. All of us should have an opportunity at redemption.”It’s about damn time: “Shortly after the post and the song's rerelease, disabled people praised Lizzo for being so receptive and for responding well to the community's feedback. Thompson noted, however, that she was not surprised that Lizzo responded the way that she did. Having done work in Black progressive spaces, Thompson has seen Black people who are not versed in disability but who actively work to do better. They know the importance of ...

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