In this episode, host Nick Newsom talks to Vincent Couronne, co-founder of Les Surligneurs and treasurer of the European Fact-Checking Standards Network. Vincent shares highlights from the Global Fact 11 Summit in Sarajevo, where the strained relationship between fact-checkers and platforms was a hot topic. The discussion covers disinformation trends during the European Union elections, noting the shift from targeting the electoral process to undermining trust in EU institutions by exploiting local issues. Vincent addresses the evolving nature of disinformation with AI-generated content, which, while still limited in spread, fosters doubt about information authenticity. Les Surligneurs' "legal checking" methdology is showcased. This focuses on verifying legal claims with impartial experts. Vincent highlights how AI tools are helping accelerate the formation of fact-checking units in conflict prone areas. Finally, Vincent discusses the future of fact-checking, emphasising collaboration with researchers and media literacy organisations

01:17 - Takeaways from GlobalFact 11

03:54 - Disinformation around the EU elections

09:38 - Challenges of AI and deepfakes

14:00 - Helping journalists know what the legal consensus is around issues

20:00 - Augmenting legal checking using AI

25:10 - EU AI Act and disinformation

27:21 - The relationship between platforms and fact-checkers

33:56 - Is the Digital Services Act muscular enough on disinformation?

37:47 - Fighting accusations fact-checkers being part of ‘censorship industrial complex’

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Tackling disinformation: the EU digital services act explained. Siren Associates, 2023.

The DSA, disinformation and the European elections: solutions through recommender systems?. DSA Observatory, 2024.

The People Who Turn Lies into Reality, with Renée DiResta. Chatter podcast, Lawfare, 2024.

The Stanford Internet Observatory is being dismantled. Platformer, 2024.

No embargo in sight: Meta lets pro-Russia propaganda ads flood the EU. AI Forensics, 2024.

How CrowdTangle predicted the future. Platformer, 2024.

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