Ever imagine pneumonia changing your favorite drink from bourbon to gin and tonic?

That’s exactly how we kick off this episode of Cyber After Hours—S1E5: “What Makes Cybersecurity So Complex and How Do We Get Over It?”—by sharing personal stories and unexpected shifts in our day-to-day routines.

The big question on our minds is why cybersecurity feels so complicated in the first place.

From developers juggling code releases to risk managers balancing compliance and authentic security, each role adds another layer of complexity—especially for smaller organizations with limited resources.

We also look at whether cybersecurity belongs alongside established fields like law or medicine, and explore why compliance alone doesn’t necessarily mean you’re secure (hint: a single firewall isn’t a silver bullet).

Instead, we champion education, prioritization, and a well-crafted plan over piling on the latest high-tech gadgets.

Our conversation turns to the meaning of “control,” examining how everyone—auditors, tech gurus, and executives—views it differently.

We even put cloud environments under the microscope to reveal their benefits and potential pitfalls.

By the end, we’re already excited about upcoming episodes, teasing everything from special guests to maybe even a catchy jingle for our sign-off.

If you’re craving real-world experiences, practical insights, and the occasional laugh, tune in to Cyber After Hours and discover how surviving pneumonia—or any cyber threat—can sometimes lead you to a whole new taste in life.

Cheers!

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