In this episode of Futurise, Rob Price is joined by Professor Michael Wade to discuss how leaders can take meaningful, safe action on AI without waiting for certainty — and without exposing their organisations to unnecessary risk.

The conversation explores the challenges of operating in a fast-moving AI landscape, what lies beyond agentic AI, and why doing something deliberate now is often safer than doing nothing at all. Michael also shares how he thinks about market risk over time, including the use of tools like the AI Risk Clock to help leaders sense when conditions are changing.

In this episode, we discuss:

• Why traditional AI strategies struggle in rapidly evolving markets

• How leaders can start acting without locking in the wrong decisions

• The difference between safe progress and reckless acceleration

• What “beyond agentic AI” might mean for organisations

• How to think about market risk as conditions shift

Michael Wade advises senior leaders on digital transformation and AI as a Professor of Strategy and Digital at IMD Business School in Switzerland, helping organisations balance speed, responsibility, and long-term value.

Comments are open — how are you deciding when and how to act on AI?

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In the 19th episode of Season 2 on #AgenticAI, Rob is joined by Michael Herron, CEO of Atos UK&I. Michael joined Atos at the end of January 2025 and he talks with Rob about the recent investments from Atos to a Sovereign Orchestration Hub, a Digital Agentic Centre and a #Sovereign Digital Enablement Centre, especially relevant in light of the recent UK Government commitments to AI Growth Zones. Rob and Michael also share a common passion in regard to the development of future careers in this space, and discuss how that might evolve in an Agentic powered world.

Relevant links:

https://atos.net/en-gb/united-kingdom

https://atos.net/en-gb/lp/uki-digital-sovereignty

https://atos.net/en-gb/2025/press-releases-en-gb_2025_10_20/atos-to-launch-new-sovereign-and-sovereign-ai-centres-across-the-uk

Comments are open for questions or observations.

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#AgenticAI isn’t just changing tools — it’s changing how work gets done.

In this episode of Futurise, Rob Price explores whether existing team design models still hold in an agentic world, and what leaders need to change as AI agents become part of everyday delivery.

Featuring Matthew Skelton, co-author of Team Topologies and CEO/CTO of Conflux.

• Do Team Topologies principles still apply with AI agents in the workflow?

• What breaks first when teams stay “human-only” in design

• How to think about accountability, flow, and boundaries in agentic teams

• What organisations should start changing now, not later.

Matthew Skelton is co-author of the award-winning Team Topologies, founder and CEO/CTO of Conflux, and a leading voice in modern organisational design.

• Matthew Skelton: matthewskelton.com

• Conflux: confluxhq.com/outcomes

• Team Topologies: teamtopologies.com/scale

Comments are open — how do you think teams should evolve in an agentic world?

If AI agents are doing more of the work, what should teams actually be responsible for? Interested to hear how others are thinking about this.