Agentic AI is moving fast — from experiments and copilots to systems that can plan, decide, and act over time. As these systems become more capable, an important question follows: how do we make sure they remain safe, trustworthy, and aligned with human intent?

In this extra episode of Season 2, Rob Price is joined by Nell Watson — AI ethics researcher, author, and Chair of the Safer Agentic AI Safety Experts Focus Group, IEEE — to explore what safer agentic AI means in practice.

Rather than focusing on abstract risks or distant futures, the conversation looks at:

• how agentic AI is being built and adopted today

• where organisations and founders most often underestimate safety

• how principles like alignment, epistemic hygiene, and goal limits show up in real products and operating models

• and why leaders may want to engage with agentic AI safety before regulation or incidents force the issue

As agentic systems become more capable and more embedded in organisations, what does “safe enough” look like — and who gets to decide?

Comments are open — how are you deciding when and how to act on AI?

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In this episode of Futurise, Rob Price is joined by Professor Michael Wade to discuss how leaders can take meaningful, safe action on AI without waiting for certainty — and without exposing their organisations to unnecessary risk.

The conversation explores the challenges of operating in a fast-moving AI landscape, what lies beyond agentic AI, and why doing something deliberate now is often safer than doing nothing at all. Michael also shares how he thinks about market risk over time, including the use of tools like the AI Risk Clock to help leaders sense when conditions are changing.

In this episode, we discuss:

• Why traditional AI strategies struggle in rapidly evolving markets

• How leaders can start acting without locking in the wrong decisions

• The difference between safe progress and reckless acceleration

• What “beyond agentic AI” might mean for organisations

• How to think about market risk as conditions shift

Michael Wade advises senior leaders on digital transformation and AI as a Professor of Strategy and Digital at IMD Business School in Switzerland, helping organisations balance speed, responsibility, and long-term value.

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In the 19th episode of Season 2 on #AgenticAI, Rob is joined by Michael Herron, CEO of Atos UK&I. Michael joined Atos at the end of January 2025 and he talks with Rob about the recent investments from Atos to a Sovereign Orchestration Hub, a Digital Agentic Centre and a #Sovereign Digital Enablement Centre, especially relevant in light of the recent UK Government commitments to AI Growth Zones. Rob and Michael also share a common passion in regard to the development of future careers in this space, and discuss how that might evolve in an Agentic powered world.

Relevant links:

https://atos.net/en-gb/united-kingdom

https://atos.net/en-gb/lp/uki-digital-sovereignty

https://atos.net/en-gb/2025/press-releases-en-gb_2025_10_20/atos-to-launch-new-sovereign-and-sovereign-ai-centres-across-the-uk

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