Seasons have highs and lows. Will Canu and Greville Waterman join to find a host of silver linings and reasons to be cheerful after a tough, tough week. We probe the psychology of home and away mindsets, we think about squad depth as the January window comes into view, and we try to not let Spurs get in our heads.

There's no question this wasn't the performances we had hoped for, but there's always another match coming up to make things right. We'll take out our frustrations on Leeds.

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Burnley swept aside (though it didn't feel that easy for about 85 minutes!), we look ahead to the small matter of a week featuring Arsenal and "Thomas Frank's Spurs". Somehow the Brentford Miracle is rolling again, and we're starting to look up rather than down at this table.

Which will never get old.

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Greville and Tim have to discuss a disappointing Saturday down in South London, but then we're on to a bigger conversation about what we know about Brentford Football Club after a quarter of the season gone.

Are we on the right track? Are we in a false position at 12th in the table, or is this who we rightly are this season? We try to make some sense of the most turbulent off-season and first ten matches in many years.

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