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Health Expert Thorrun Govind, a trusted TV health expert who is dedicated to making healthcare advice accessible and easy to understand. As a former Chair of the Royal College of Pharmacy in England, Thorrun has extensive experience in public health and is a leading advocate for empowering individuals to make informed decisions about their health.

We talk candidly about why women’s bodies are treated as political battlegrounds and how we reclaim them as sources of power, truth, and lived wisdom. With pharmacist and health expert Thorin, we share practical ways to track symptoms, protect energy, and push for real support at work, in healthcare, and at home.
• refusing to apologise for being tired and needing rest
• evidence-based basics for energy and resilience, including sleep, protein, fibre and weight-bearing exercise
• challenging bounce-back culture after birth and stopping body comments in their tracks
• menopause at work realities, including why policies fail without culture and practice
• tracking symptoms with simple data to improve healthcare conversations
• pharmacy perspectives on HRT shortages, safety questions and avoiding the wrong quick fix
• a reminder that “it’s menopause” can mask other conditions, including type 2 diabetes
• endometriosis, heavy bleeding and period pain as issues that deserve investigation and care
• contraception education, individual fit and why emergency contraception should stay “emergency”
Listen to your body and take one step today, it will make a difference.

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We talk about what being unapologetic looks like in ordinary moments, from asking for what we need to refusing shame after we speak up. We explore queen and witch energy, truth over comfort, and why owning our full range makes us better leaders and braver women.
• advocating for what we need in the moment without becoming rude or aggressive
• letting go of perfectionism and stopping the inner blame when we learn differently
• drawing inspiration from women who choose courage and joy through hardship
• noticing how girls are trained to read the room instead of listening inward
• saying yes to self-expression and play, including beginner energy and being seen as “weird”
• saying no cleanly without excuses, stories, or last-minute bailing
• challenging group think on AI, including bias, ethics, and environmental impact
• reclaiming language about women’s bodies and rejecting labels that carry shame
• speaking openly about perimenopause, menopause, HRT, and medical autonomy
• leading like ourselves by trusting the body, honouring seasons, and allowing contradictions
We invite you to, uh, you listeners, to do some of that work and just write a list. I am, you know, what are you in your most powerful, liberated, free self?
If today’s conversation let even a small flame in you, I invite you to fan it. Notice where you’re being called to be more unapologetic, where you’re being invited to lead like yourself

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We talk with journalist, author, and coach Jo Carnegie about the hidden ways women apologise for taking up space and how midlife can push us to reclaim purpose, friendship, and creativity. We get real about judgement, loneliness, distraction, and ageing, then land on practical ways to step back into our power with grace and grit.
• Jo’s early certainty about becoming a journalist and what it teaches about trusting your inner knowing
• Why the word “lady” can feel like a built-in apology and how language shapes self-worth
• Writing fiction as a way to drop filters, say the unsaid, and practise unapologetic expression
• Fun as a serious survival skill in heavy times and a remedy for midlife flattening
• Invisible loneliness, why busy can still mean isolated, and how we protect women’s friendships
• Fear of judgement as self-judgement, plus the relief of “dropping some balls”
• Distraction, self-inquiry, and worries about outsourcing intuition to AI and apps
• Jo’s decade of travel and India street-dog rescue work, losing identity, then rebuilding routine and purpose
• A simple weekly prompt to choose one unapologetic act and invite another woman to do the same

For everybody out there, if today's conversation lights you up some way, inspires you, here's your sisterly challenge, choose one small unapologetic act this week. Set that boundary, ask for the fee, claim the credit for something, just say no, and then tell a sister what you did and invite her to do the same.

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You can feel it when a woman walks into a room and she’s chosen herself first. That’s the thread we pull on with identity-led stylist, coach, and speaker Jane Brook: how personal style and colour analysis can become a route back to confidence, especially for women over 40 navigating big shifts like motherhood, career changes, perimenopause, and menopause.

We get honest about the cultural noise women live with: “flattering” rules, body trends that come and go, and the endless temptation to wait until we’re smaller, younger, or more acceptable before we fully show up. Jane breaks down the “waiting room” mindset and shares why the real issue is so often the clothes, not your body. We also explore fashion psychology and enclothed cognition, the idea that what we wear changes how we think, behave, and connect with other people, for better or worse.

Along the way, we share our own stories of losing and reclaiming identity, learning what fabrics and shapes actually work, and raising daughters with healthier language around bodies and self-worth. The practical takeaway is simple: use your wardrobe as a tool for self-expression, visibility, and choice, and let it reflect who you are now, not who you used to be.

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We name the ways women learn to shrink, from saying sorry for taking up space to doing the work without claiming the credit. We share how to spot the hidden apology in your words and body, then replace it with clear needs, clean boundaries, and a practiced no.

• shrinking ambitions and softening opinions to stay acceptable
• the breaking point that looks like rage and silent quitting
• shifting from self-blame to grounded self-advocacy
• noticing the “sorry to interrupt” habit and other minimising phrases
• why “helping” can hide your value and erase your expertise
• body cues like sighs and grunts as signals of unmet needs
• owning your contribution in promotions, interviews, and project wins
• asking for support at home instead of carrying the default load
• practising “no” as a boundary and a way back to yourself

If you're unable to use the word no in your life, in multiple in any area of your life, actually, you might be okay in one area but not okay in another area, then you need to come work with us and do some work because without that word, when we are when we are unable to say no to others, we cannot say yes to ourselves.
We are the women to do that for you, so come and work with us.

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We’re back for season three with a clear mission: support women to own their brilliance, rest when they need to, and take the spotlight in a way that feels true. We define what “unapologetic” really means, share role models across generations, and get practical about boundaries, sisterhood, and stopping the habit of over-explaining.

• setting the tone for an “unapologetic season” rooted in women’s real lives
• redefining unapologetic as self-knowledge rather than aggression
• Dolly Parton as a model for power, privacy and truth telling
• women’s health and visibility, including living with endometriosis
• role models and soft power, from Madonna to Gillian Anderson
• women supporting women in leadership and building legacies
• boundaries in business, budgets and naming when the exchange is off
• life stages and dark nights as evolution rather than failure
• dropping the need to justify feelings and needs in relationships

So please do come along to the Wise Women Lead website and go and find our unapologetic group.

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We press pause for the summer to reflect on Season 2, the conversations that hit hardest, and the quieter growth underneath it all. We talk honestly about energy, voice, sisterhood and hope, then set intentions for rest so we can return in September with stronger words and clearer purpose.
• pausing as a choice for reflection and spaciousness
• the most listened-to themes: matriarchy, political division, female rage, taking action
• holding heavy topics as coaches and the need for recovery
• talking things through to find language rather than performing expertise
• speaking up as a practice and the cost of silence for women
• global listenership and the rise of a quieter sisterhood through social media
• noticing how energy shapes leadership and boundaries
• appreciating male allies and what healthy masculinity looks like in real life
• reasons for hope including social change and UK legal and healthcare shifts
• summer intentions around rest, receiving, slowing down and feeding the soul
We’d love you to let us know which is your favourite episode, what topics do you want us to talk about in the season ahead, and keep sharing, liking, promoting, commenting because we want more women to come and join us

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We come home from a night of music and sisterhood and use it to explore why women mask, how safety changes what we show, and what it means to unmask without oversharing. We talk honestly about perimenopause, grief, identity shifts, and the liberation that can arrive when we start choosing ourselves first.
• the energy of women coming together and why it feels safer
• what masking looks like at work, at home, and in social settings
• how people pleasing and the good girl identity shape behaviour
• boundaries, social batteries, and learning to honour a real no
• perimenopause as a decade of questioning, grief, and change
• the wisdom and stability that can follow menopause
• discernment, choosing when to mask and when to be vulnerable
• advice for younger women on staying connected to their essence
And remember, if you love what you're hearing, please like, share, comment, and help us reach more women.

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