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The Empire Builders Podcast

The Empire Builders Podcast

著者： Stephen Semple and David Young
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  • #275: Joray Fruit Roll-Up – Yup, They Invented It!

    #275: Joray Fruit Roll-Up – Yup, They Invented It!
    2026/09/23
    Have you ever heard of fruit leather? You know, that famous Syrian treat. Well, let’s learn how that became the iconic Fruit Roll-Up. Dave Young: Welcome to the Empire Builders Podcast, teaching business owners the not so secret techniques that took famous businesses from mom and pop to major brands. Stephen Semple is a marketing consultant, story collector and storyteller. I’m Stephen’s sidekick and business partner, Dave Young. Before we get into today’s episode, word from our sponsor, which is, well, it’s us. But we’re highlighting ads we’ve written and produced for our clients. So, here’s one of those. [A&A Roof Ad] Dave Young: Welcome to the Empire Builders Podcast, I’m Dave Young. Steve Semple is here with another story, and he told me that this episode’s going to be a two-parter because this product has two phases. Stephen Semple: It does. Dave Young: The invention phase and then sort of the suborbital stage one. But fruit roll-ups, or as we like to call it in Nebraska, the devil’s lettuce. Stephen Semple: The devil’s lettuce. Dave Young: No, that’s something else, nevermind. Fruit roll-ups. Stephen Semple: Fruit roll-ups. Dave Young: Man, I missed the… I mean, they were starting to come around out in Western Nebraska, you barely got fruit that wasn’t just ugly, let alone rolled up and put in a package. But I remember it came on big cellophane sheets. Stephen Semple: Yeah. It’s a billion dollar product category today. Dave Young: Is it really? Stephen Semple: I could argue that probably just about every child has had one, right? Dave Young: Oh yeah. No doubt. Stephen Semple: It’s crazy, it’s crazy big. But I’m going to say most people probably have not heard of the company that invented them, because this isn’t a story about General Mills, this is a story about a little company that’s actually not been heard of much. The story starts with a Syrian baker in New York, who, quite frankly, sort of accidentally creates an entirely new snack category, and then watches somebody else build it into an empire. So, we’re going to do this, as I said, in two parts. So, this is part one, which is the origin of the idea of the fruit roll-up. So, it’s the early 1990s… Or 1900s, sorry, the early 1900s. Dave Young: Early 1900s. Okay. Stephen Semple: Yeah. And- Dave Young: It goes way back. Stephen Semple: It does go way back. And Joseph Shalhoub & Sons is a small family bakery in New York, and they specialize in Middle Eastern pastries, and they introduce this one unusual product called amardeen. Dave Young: Amardeen. Stephen Semple: Yeah, it’s this traditional Syrian fruit leather. It’s pureed apricots, sweetened, sun-dried into large sheets, and sold by cutting the pieces from these large slabs. Dave Young: I remember the phrase fruit leather, yeah. Okay. Stephen Semple: And customers love it, but it’s another imported specialty food. That is until his son Louis Shalhoub comes along. Now, he started working in the bakery, like a lot of family businesses, at the age of 12, he’s an exceptionally talented baker, and he loves making new confections. Now, he served in the Korean War, and when he returns from the war, he has some bigger ambitions, he wants it to become more than just a neighborhood bakery. But when he returns from the Korean War, the business is facing some real challenges. There’s political instability in Lebanon and Syria, and this disrupts imports. So, their signature product, amardeen, is becoming hard to find. So, he decides we’ll make it ourselves. Problem is no one’s really done this commercially. The process is pretty primitive. You’re pressing the fruit, laying it out on cellophane, hanging it literally in sheets on a clothes line. Setting it out to dry. Dave Young: Yeah, so it can dry on both sides. Yeah. Stephen Semple: Yeah. So, it’s hard, it’s slow, it’s labor-intensive, but he works on it. He works on it, works on it, works on it. Because one of the things that he found is his homemade version has more flavor, better texture, less leathery, and frankly, it’s just a better product. He keeps working on it, and the other thing he realizes is people really don’t want these giant sheets, they want something more convenient. And if you think about it, this is kind of the same insight ...
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    15 分
  • #274: Palm Pilot – Inspired By A Failed Product

    #274: Palm Pilot – Inspired By A Failed Product
    2026/09/16
    Apple’s PDA device Newton was a little too ambitious. So Jeff Hawkins, did the opposite and removed capabilities to create Palm Pilot. Dave Young: Welcome to the Empire Builders Podcast, teaching business owners the not-so-secret techniques that took famous businesses from mom and pop to major brands. Stephen Semple is a marketing consultant, story collector and storyteller. I’m Stephen’s sidekick and business partner, Dave Young. Before we get into today’s episode, a word from our sponsor, which is, well, it’s us, but we’re highlighting ads we’ve written and produced for our clients. So here’s one of those. [Kooler Garage Doors] Dave Young: Welcome back to the Empire Builders Podcast. Dave Young here with Stephen Semple, who’s been out digging up stories about empires, giant empires that took over the world and then somehow lost it. Stephen Semple: Well, this one sure did. Dave Young: Yeah, they sure did. Stephen made an assumption as he whispered the topic into my ear just as he hit the record button, and that is that at some point in my life I owned a PalmPilot because that’s the topic for today’s is the PalmPilot. Everybody remembers that. And, Stephen, the answer to your question is, no, I didn’t. I did not own a PalmPilot. Stephen Semple: You did not? Dave Young: No, I was too cheap. I had a cheap Sony knockoff of a PalmPilot. Stephen Semple: Wow. Dave Young: It had a little camera in it, though. Stephen Semple: Oh, the [inaudible 00:02:18]. Dave Young: That was back before … Cell phones didn’t have … If they did, they were just a little flip phone sort of camera. My little Sony version of a PalmPilot had a cheesy little potato quality camera in it. Stephen Semple: Wow. Dave Young: In fact, some of the earliest pictures of the Wizard Academy campus that I have were taken on that device. So I have these grainy pictures of Roy Williams in the woods showing me where the tower was going to be- Stephen Semple: That’s cool. Dave Young: … and standing in the pole barn that got remodeled into Tuscan Hall, all of those things. Stephen Semple: Ah, that’s- Dave Young: Yeah. I remember it was always fun to play with. I don’t remember much about it, to be honest, other than it had a camera on it. Stephen Semple: Wow. Dave Young: I don’t think most PalmPilots did. Stephen Semple: No, they didn’t. They did not. Because so many of these early technology things you’ve been an adapter of, I thought for sure you would’ve had a … So I guessed wrong. I guessed wrong. Dave Young: I just needed … Well, first two things. This is 2004-ish, 2003-ish. They came out a few years earlier than that. Stephen Semple: 1996 is when they launched. Dave Young: Really? Stephen Semple: Yes. Dave Young: I was just cheap is the problem. I was broke and cheap at that time. So I guarantee you I had PalmPilot envy up until the point that Sony came out with this one that actually had a camera at a low price point, and I’m like, “All right, I’m going to …” Stephen Semple: Well- Dave Young: Oh, oh, wait a minute. I’m wrong. Now that I think about it, they had a cheap version of a PalmPilot that was colored plastic. Stephen Semple: Yeah? Dave Young: Yeah. I actually did have that, and the Sony was an upgrade. I’m visualizing … Because I got them for my kids, too. So not only did I have one, but my kids each had one. I don’t think they did anything with them. Stephen Semple: Here’s the crazy thing is there could be tons of people listening to this, there’ll be a bunch of people who know what we’re talking about and a bunch of people who won’t know what we’re talking about. One of the things is there was a period there in the early 2000s where Palm OS was 50% to 60% of the PDA, personal digital assistant, operating systems in the world, and there was a point where the value of the business was $50 billion. Dave Young: Yeah, that’s really nuts. Stephen Semple: They were a big deal and then disappeared. Dave Young: Well, then the iPhone came out, so you had your phone, your camera, your PalmPilot all in one. Stephen Semple: Yeah, between the BlackBerry and the iPhone, it was a combination of those two. BlackBerry’s now gone as well or diminished. But what’s really interesting is how this piece of technology was developed, and ...
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    20 分
  • #273: BNI – Part 2 – Continuing The Growth

    #273: BNI – Part 2 – Continuing The Growth
    2026/09/10
    Dr. Misner learned that the law of reciprocity is the strongest form of connection and now “Givers Gain” is the philosophy that all the members of BNI live by. Dave Young: Welcome to the Empire Builders Podcast, teaching business owners the not so secret techniques that took famous businesses from mom and pop to major brands. Stephen Semple is a marketing consultant, story collector and storyteller. I’m Stephen’s sidekick and business partner, Dave Young. Before we get into today’s episode, word from our sponsor, which is, well, it’s us, but we’re highlighting ads we’ve written and produced for our clients. So here’s one of those. [Wagmore Garage Doors Ad] Gary: Told you, Brian. Brian: Told me what? Gary: This is part two of last week’s episode. Brian: Oh, yeah. And it was getting good. Gary: If you missed it, go back and listen to part one first. Take it away, fellas. Stephen Semple: Was there a big moment? Was there a big challenge? Was there a setback? So what are some of the things that you face that you had to deal with in this journey? Dr. Ivan Misner: Feature Creep is ongoing. I didn’t quite set up BNI to be as smooth a business as it could have been. Franchising in the early days was complex to figure out, but that’s not the single biggest thing. The thing that almost bankrupted me was what’s called BNI Connect. And I don’t know, Stephen, if you were part of BNI when we introduced BNI Connect. Stephen Semple: I think it was- Dr. Ivan Misner: Our online platform- Stephen Semple: I think it was just around the time. Dr. Ivan Misner: Yeah. Imagine LinkedIn for BNI. It’s a walled garden. You can’t really use any of the services on BNI Connect unless you’re a member. Yeah, that was horrible. And I actually wrote a book about this. It’s called The 3rd Paradigm, and the first paradigm being competition, the second paradigm in business, second paradigm being cooperation, and the third paradigm is co-creation. And we talk about how we solved this problem with BNI Connect through co-creation. And if somebody really wants to read the story of how I dealt with my most serious problem, pick up a copy of The 3rd Paradigm, and here’s a secret. We surveyed 2000 people, so there’s survey data. We talk about what are the top seven characteristics of co-creation, what are the seven problems with co-creation? And then interwoven in every chapter is a story about this platform and a guy named Richard. And we say it’s a true story, but we don’t say the platform is BNI Connect and Richard’s my middle name. So it was me. I tell the story about all the really, really stupid things I did and how I eventually resolved them through co-creation, through getting people to work with me. And one of the most important statements that I continually said was hold the vision, not the obstacles. There’s lots of obstacles. What we have to do as a group is hold the vision. Just keep holding that vision. We’ll work around the obstacles. We’ll work under the obstacles. We’ll go over the obstacles. We’ll knock the dang things down. Hold the vision, not the obstacles. And there was a very seminal moment, and I talk about it in the book where I felt I was ready. They were ready to take me out and draw and quarter me in the courtyard. They were so mad at me. And I talked about how we, through co-creation, did something amazing. I couldn’t give you that 27 billion number, 27.1 billion number if we didn’t have BNI Connect. Stephen Semple: So BNI Connect was a massive undertaking- Dr. Ivan Misner: Yeah, it almost bankrupted me. Stephen Semple: Almost bankrupted you, but you saw the vision and you just stuck with it. Dr. Ivan Misner: Yeah. Stephen Semple: Now talk to me a little bit more about how this co-creation helped with making that happen. Dr. Ivan Misner: Well, the first thing that I had to do was to acknowledge that what I had done wasn’t working. And so I took responsibility for… It was with a small group of people, we call them the founder’s circle. It’s about 35 people, top directors in BNI. And so you just throw yourself on the sword. And generally, if you throw yourself in the sword right from the outset, it’s hard for other people to hack away at you because you’ve already done it to yourself. ...
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    30 分
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