In honor of the Disclosure Day Movie - the UFO headlines included in this show fit right in. Prior to 2017 -- when UFOs didn't exist... (That narrative has now expired/is no longer useful.)

INFO: This segment has been edited. Opens with the show music and news headlines then the interview with Dream Interpreter/Author JM DeBord.

RE Music: Used at the time of production in studio for live broadcast on KCMO 710 AM Radio. 2015-2017. 2 issues with this rebroadcast - that portion has been removed.

https://jmdebord.com/

Summary: This video is a 2015/16 archival broadcast of Wendy's Coffee House, a talk radio program exploring UFO phenomena and the intersection of dreams and psychology. In this segment, host Wendy shares UFO-related news headlines before interviewing guest JM DeBord (also known as Jason), a renowned Reddit dream interpreter and author of the Dream Interpretation Dictionary.

Part 1: UFO News and Headlines (0:41 – 8:34) Wendy discusses several topics related to unidentified aerial phenomena:

• Roswell 70th Anniversary: Discussion of upcoming events in Roswell and the persistence of UFO witness reports (1:47).
• Project Blue Book: The History Channel's series project involving Robert Zemeckis and the historical case files of Dr. J. Allen Hynek (5:20).
• UFO Roadside Attractions: A spotlight on Jody Pendarvis and his UFO-themed display in Bowman, South Carolina (4:07).
• Robert Bigelow: A mention of the billionaire's contributions to space exploration and the study of UFOs (6:56).

Part 2: Interview with Dream Interpreter JM DeBord (8:34 – 41:50) Jason explains his methodology for interpreting dreams, emphasizing that they are personal stories rather than fixed definitions:

• The Symbolic Approach: Jason stresses the importance of analyzing the setting, characters, and actions within a dream to find personal meaning (31:26). He cautions against relying on one-size-fits-all dream dictionaries (13:33).
• Visitation Dreams vs. Metaphors: Jason discusses how to distinguish between a metaphorical dream (related to grief or personal growth) and a potential spiritual visitation. He notes that visitation dreams often feature the deceased in their prime, convey messages of love, and sometimes provide unknown information (21:16).
• Dream Myths: Jason debunks the common myth that dying or hitting the ground in a dream results in real-life death, sharing his own personal experience where a falling dream symbolized hitting 'rock bottom' and prompted a major life change (34:10).
• Community Impact: Jason shares how he began his work on Reddit (the r/Dreams subreddit) to help people navigate their subconscious and why he believes understanding dreams is a powerful tool for personal development (26:40, 30:44).

In Part 2 of my conversation with author Elly Flippen, we move into the more esoteric side of Ingo Swann’s work — including remote viewing the planets, UFOs and UAPs, non-human entities, and the complicated nature of contact experiences.

Ingo Swann is widely known as an artist, author, and remote viewing pioneer, but his explorations extended far beyond laboratory perception studies. His work touched the edges of anomalous contact, intelligence beyond the human frame, and encounters that were not always comfortable — or easily explained.

Elly shares that there is a downside to contact experience that has not been given enough attention. Not every encounter is benevolent. Not every presence is what it appears to be. And not every open door is easy to close.

Drawing from Ingo’s writings, his website, and Elly’s own work, this conversation asks a deeper question: What kind of preparation, discernment, and grounding are needed before engaging the unseen? Curious about Ingo's explorations. Elly has created a wonderful archive. IngoSwann.com is an excellent resource.

Websites: ingoswann.com and conjunction.world

In this two-part conversation, we talk with author Elly Flippen about You Know More Than You Think, her five-book experiential series exploring perceptual literacy — how awareness forms, stabilizes, differentiates, navigates, and eventually encounters the larger forces shaping reality.

Elly brings a unique personal perspective to this work. She grew up in close proximity to her uncle, artist and remote viewing pioneer Ingo Swann, where she was immersed in his creative work, perceptual research, and the wider community around it. That early exposure gave her a first-hand view of how perception operates at the edges of what is usually noticed.

As an example, the first book in the series, What’s Already There, which focuses on perception before thought: the body’s ability to register tone, atmosphere, connection, and pattern before conscious reasoning steps in.

This is not a conversation about mystical powers. It is a grounded look at the subtle ways we sense, respond, and know more than we may have been taught to trust. Across the two interviews, Elly offers a thoughtful bridge between lived experience, perceptual science, neuroscience, and the research lineage of Ingo Swann.

Websites: ingoswann.com and conjunction.world