What if the key to explosive growth isn’t chasing new customers but treating expansion as an act of service to the ones you already have?

Alex Raymond sits down with Amanda Edington, VP of Account Management at Payscale, to unpack how a mindset shift toward service transformed her team’s approach to growth and retention. Amanda shares how curiosity and trust drive meaningful expansion, why the best account managers see every conversation as discovery, and how one question, “How can we be a better partner for you?”, can turn a renewal risk into a long-term success story.

Through examples and coaching insights, Amanda reveals what separates reactive sellers from strategic partners and why true customer elation is earned through measurable value, not momentary satisfaction. A must-listen for anyone in entrepreneurship, business, or wellbeing, this episode challenges account managers to think bigger about service, partnership, and what it really means to grow with your clients.

Episode Breakdown:

00:00 Building PayScale’s Account Management Function

05:12 Turning Expansion Into a Growth Engine

10:40 Curiosity and Trust as the Keys to Client Retention

16:25 The Power of Asking “How Can We Be a Better Partner for You?”

22:58 From Churn Risk to Long-Term Growth

30:16 Redefining Customer Elation and True Partnership

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Satisfied customers leave, but loyal ones stay because great account managers turn every interaction into consistency, trust, and genuine partnership.

Alex Raymond sits down with customer experience expert and New York Times bestselling author Shep Hyken to explore how account managers can move beyond customer satisfaction and build true loyalty that lasts. Shep explains why “satisfied” is the most dangerous word in business and reveals how small shifts in behavior, like proactive communication, reliable follow-through, and fast problem resolution, create long-term retention and growth.

Drawing on decades of research and stories from the front lines, Shep shows that B2B buyers think like consumers, constantly comparing their experience with yours to the best they’ve ever had from companies like Amazon or Apple. His insights give account managers a playbook for becoming indispensable partners rather than replaceable vendors. From mastering his five-step service recovery framework to adopting a customer-focused culture that values consistency over heroics, this episode delivers a blueprint for building trust, earning loyalty, and owning every moment as the CEO of the client experience.

Episode Breakdown:

00:00 Introduction and The Hidden Risk of “Satisfied” Customers

02:33 Why B2B Clients Expect B2C-Level Experiences

05:04 Proactive Communication and Lessons from Amazon

13:21 Fixing the Sales-to-Account Manager Handoff

17:04 Loyalty vs. Satisfaction: What Really Drives Retention

25:04 Shep Hyken’s Five-Step Service Recovery Framework

30:16 Building a Customer-Centered Culture

37:04 Key Takeaways for Account Managers

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When contracts disappear and only value keeps customers loyal, the real work of account management begins.

Alex Raymond talks with Anthony DeShazor, the founder and chief architect of Protia Revenue Systems, about building customer relationships that last when “value is the contract.” Drawing from his experience leading customer success at Givelify, Anthony shares how operating without renewals or lock-ins pushed his team to deliver measurable outcomes every day and redefine what success really means. He explains how taking ownership of value, rather than letting customers define it, turns account managers into strategic partners who drive growth and trust.

By connecting outcomes to purpose, not just performance, Anthony offers a new way to think about loyalty, communication, and long-term customer success.

Episode Breakdown:

00:00 No Auto-Renewals: When Value Is the Contract

05:15 No Safety Net: Urgency and Prioritization

07:13 Shifting the Value Conversation

10:09 Defining and Communicating Value

12:00 Results: Growth from Outcome Focus

14:01 Always On Value Communication

15:05 EBR Structure for Maximum Impact

21:58 Tracking EBR Success and Retention

28:09 Coordinating Customer Communications

37:06 Starting with Value and Outcomes

Connect with Anthony DeShazor:

Visit the Pavilion website

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Revenue is more concentrated than ever, with a handful of accounts driving the majority of growth. That reality makes account management both the biggest risk and the biggest lever in business today.

In this episode, Frank Cespedes—senior lecturer at Harvard Business School and author of Sales Management That Works—joins Alex Raymond to talk about why most companies are still scandalously sloppy with account planning, why account managers can no longer afford to be financially illiterate, and what it takes to be taken seriously in the C-suite.

They discuss how higher interest rates are changing buying behavior, why lead qualification criteria matter more than ever, and the danger of treating account management as nothing more than discount-driven cross-sell. Frank also weighs in on the “full spectrum AE” debate and why asking one person to do everything across the customer lifecycle is a fantasy in most organizations.

For anyone serious about entrepreneurship and building a durable business, this conversation offers a clear reminder: account management isn’t just about customer retention, it’s about protecting wellbeing across the company. If you can’t connect your work to profitable growth and enterprise value, your seat at the table is far from guaranteed.

Episode Breakdown:

00:00 Why Account Management Matters with Frank Cespedes

02:28 Why Big Accounts Dominate Revenue Growth

04:54 Lead Qualification in a High-Interest Market

10:49 Why Leaders Are Out of Touch with Customers

13:10 Financial Literacy as a Core AM Skill

20:04 The Account Planning Problem

25:32 Spreadsheets vs. Real Customer Contact

29:09 Technology and AI Reshaping Buying Behavior

30:22 Where to Invest in Account Management

35:56 The Debate on Full Spectrum AEs

39:24 The Future of CS and Account Management

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Most account managers know how to follow up, but follow through is what separates someone who manages deals from someone who builds real partnerships.

Bill Senese, Senior Strategic Adoption Manager at Amazon Business and author of “The Book on That: B2B Account Management,” shares the skills that actually move the needle - listening that uncovers what clients aren’t saying out loud, curiosity that opens the door to better discovery, and the kind of resourcefulness that helps you handle tough questions in real time.

Bill talks about the difference between persistence and pushiness, how to turn a QBR into a true conversation, and why creativity matters when a customer’s situation doesn’t fit the standard playbook. What happens when you stop relying on polished decks and start facilitating instead? How do you shift from “getting through” a meeting to creating space for real dialogue? Bill also explains why he wrote the book he wished he had early in his career - a guide meant for anyone who wants to take account management seriously, whether you’re just starting out or years into the role.

If you’ve ever asked yourself whether you’re actually earning trust or just chasing signatures, this episode gives you a sharper lens and a set of tools to help you answer that question with confidence.

Episode Breakdown:

00:00 The Hidden Challenges of Account Management

01:50 Core Skills Every Account Manager Needs

07:18 Inspiration and Writing Process for the Book

09:41 Handling Objections with Creativity and Trust

11:05 The Power of Resourcefulness and Follow Through

13:02 Follow Up vs. Follow Through

14:25 Account Manager as Quarterback for Customer Success

16:24 Rapid Learning as a Competitive Edge

18:11 Who the Book Is For and How to Use It

Connect with Bill Senese:

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The Book on That: B2B Account Management

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Customer success used to thrive on easy capital and organic expansion. But in today’s market, that model is running out of runway. If CS isn’t tied to revenue, it’s on borrowed time. In this episode, Justin Strackany - employee #1 at SecureLink who scaled the company to $50M ARR and three exits - makes the case for why post-sales must evolve into a true growth function. He and Alex Raymond discuss what it means to measure CS on NRR, how to split roles between AMs and CSMs, and why strategic account management is the skill that will separate survivors from those left behind.

From AI-enabled automation of low-value accounts, to white-space scoring and executive sponsorship for top-tier customers, Justin shares the playbook he used to turn customer success into a revenue engine. He also outlines what companies must change in their org design, hiring, and training if they want CS to remain relevant.

For account managers and CS leaders, this conversation is both a warning and a roadmap: adapt your skills, claim revenue, and redefine your role, or risk becoming obsolete.

Episode Breakdown:

00:00 Why Account Managers Drive Business Growth

02:00 Should Customer Success Own Revenue?

06:22 Why CSMs Resist Revenue Accountability

10:27 The Future of CS and Account Management in the AI Era

12:23 Scaling SecureLink from Startup to $50M ARR

18:26 Lessons from Private Equity on NRR and Growth

25:48 Strategic Account Management in the Age of AI

32:05 Redefining CS and AM as the Growth Department

39:31 Roadmap for CSMs to Stay Relevant

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Negotiation doesn’t have to feel like a hostage scene. In this episode, Alex Raymond sits down with Todd Caponi, sales expert and author of the upcoming book “Four Levers Negotiating,” to reframe how account managers approach renewals and upsells. Introducing his “Four Levers” framework (volume, timing of cash, length of commitment, and deal predictability), Todd explains how anchoring conversations on these drivers creates a sound basis for pricing. The result: fewer discounts, stronger margins, and more trust with customers.

This episode touches on the mindset shifts account managers need to make, from avoiding “easy gives” that erode credibility to introducing small amounts of friction that increase customer commitment. They also cover strategies for coaching champions to negotiate internally and how to stay consistent when procurement enters the process. By practicing these techniques, account managers can protect revenue, build stronger business relationships, and reduce the stress that comes with last-minute concessions.

Episode Breakdown:

00:00 Negotiation Doesn’t Have to Be a Hostage Scene

01:18 The Four Levers Framework

03:58 Why Traditional Tactics Fail and Erode Trust

05:14 Establishing a Sound Basis for Pricing

06:59 Trade on Value, Not Price (Timing, Scope, Terms, Payment)

10:21 Stop the “Easy Gives” That Invite More Concessions

12:54 When to Introduce the Timing Lever

15:06 Coach Your Champion to Negotiate Internally

19:30 Handling Procurement Without Losing Margin

24:53 Non-Monetary Tradeoffs That Protect Profit

28:38 Consistent Pricing and Better Forecast Accuracy

31:55 Action Steps: Start Using the Four Levers

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Utilization numbers may look like the problem. But as Josh Abdulla, the Chief Customer Officer at Asana, points out, low usage is usually just the symptom, not the cause.

In this episode, Josh shares how he manages a global portfolio of 170,000 customers by combining data-driven rigor with clear-eyed coaching. He unpacks Asana’s Red Renewals System, a process that flags enterprise churn risk up to a year in advance, giving teams the runway to act before it’s too late.

From the real reasons SMB customers cancel, to the role of verticalization in enterprise engagement, to building a value framework that proves outcomes, not just activity, Josh outlines how account managers can shift from reactive firefighting to proactive commercial leadership.

This episode also connects the dots between entrepreneurship, business, and wellbeing - showing how sustainable account management practices not only protect revenue but reduce stress, prevent burnout, and create healthier long-term client relationships.

For anyone serious about renewals, growth, and credibility with executives, this is a playbook worth studying.

Episode Breakdown:

00:00 Why Utilization Is a Symptom, Not the Cause

03:28 What Asana Really Offers Beyond Task Management

05:19 Why Asana Created a Chief Customer Officer Role

07:06 Customer Segmentation at Scale

09:49 The Four Reasons SMB Customers Churn

13:18 The Red Renewals System for Enterprise Churn

15:56 Signals That Trigger a Red Renewal

17:53 Using Data to Drive Product and Retention Strategy

18:57 Coaching CSMs vs. Solving Product Gaps

20:52 The Power and Limits of Relationship Management

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