In this episode of the Modern Marketing Podcast, hosts Melissa Reeve and Jim Ewell discuss agile marketing techniques with Fred Pernet, an agile coach, currently with Aviva.

The conversation covers Fred's journey to becoming an advocate for agility in marketing, the challenges marketers face, including overwhelming workloads in a VUCA (volatile, uncertain, complex, and ambiguous) environment, and how Agile methodologies can address these issues. The podcast delves into the principles of value, flow, and quality to improve marketing processes, emphasizing the shift from push to pull systems for better capacity management and reduced context switching.

Fred shares insights on the importance of making work transparent, limiting work in progress, and the mindset shift necessary at personal, team, and organizational levels to create a sustainable marketing pace.

The episode also introduces the Agile Marketing Alliance's Five Day Challenge to help listeners start managing their workloads more effectively.

00:00 Welcome to the Modern Marketing Podcast
00:41 Fred Pernet's Journey to Agile Marketing
02:21 The Overwhelm in Digital Marketing: Causes and Agile Solutions
06:52 Capacity Management: Supply, Demand, and Agile Principles
12:07 Implementing a Pull System in Marketing
18:17 Addressing Emotional and Social Aspects of Agile Transformation
21:14 Cultural Shifts for Sustainable Agile Marketing
23:42 Practical Steps to Create a Pull System and Reduce Overwhelm
25:26 Closing Thoughts and Resources