Once upon a time, in bucolic Bucks County, PA, two yoga educators put their hearts and minds together to tell the epic tales our bodies tell. Their mission was simple, to reveal the stories our bodies hold and tell in service of linking the individual to the collective.

It began with the idea of teaching anatomy by attributing character traits and storylines to our systems, bones, muscles, tendons, ligaments, and any other aspects of our gross anatomy. It was to learn the functions, movements, and systems of the body through storytelling. Interestingly enough, what actually unfolded started with the body, but rather than telling the stories that would increase scientific knowledge of the skeleton and other tangibles, what came up more often were the stories held and told from the body (using the Koshas/layers including: food body, energy and breath body, thoughts and emotions, wisdom, and bliss).

This final episode is not meant to imply the conversations are complete, only that the podcast conversations have come to a stopping point.

In this episode, Sherry & Theresa say farewell (Until next time) and offer their loyal listeners a couple of guided practices to punctuate this ending (and maybe glimpse bliss). They will also be available (FREE) in the Anecdotal Anatomy website store.

It was a deliberate choice to end on E88. The number itself is infinity, it is abundance and alignment. While the podcast is ending, Anecdotal Anatomy in Action is continuing with newfound momentum and joy.

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And now a personal note: We are incredibly grateful for every drop of support we have received during these pasta 88 weeks! When we think of you, we feel we know you, even though we cannot see you. Thank you!

Until next time...

Thank you to our amazing team! Please visit their links for more information! This has been a most excellent collaboration!

Our Amazing Team:

Judith George - Editor (video & audio)

Keith Kenny - Music

Cindy Fatsis - Photography

You know you’ve changed when what once made you mad now makes you laugh. (Tony Gaskins)

That sounds like wisdom. Perspective often yields to wisdom which is why we assume it comes with age. In this, our penultimate episode, we revisit Vijnanamayakosha - the wisdom sheath, which includes intellect and intuition. While this is not a new topic for discussion, but it is spoken about and explored in a different way.

The wisdom of experience is the best teacher. We can fill our cups with data-driven knowledge, but without the nuance of story and context, often we're left with dry dates and numbers. Minus any part, it may touch the intellect but will rarely stir the soul.

Wisdom shows up sometimes when we are trying to form the right response in the moment, knowing there is no one-size-fits-all. Wisdom in the skillful reading of any room. One person may need to hear something that would make another person roll her eyes. Reading the room is where wisdom and compassion meet.

Being present is a window into wisdom and intuition. The times when we're gazing through that window and still miss the mark, wisdom clears the way for resolution.  Wisdom also asks, how can I best serve you? Or just guides deep listening.

While the Koshas (Vijnanamaya, the fourth of five) are depicted having a certain order, it can be illuminating to explore them in different ways. Observing your thoughts as a means to discover the origin story of back pain, for example. Or using breath practices to activate the parasympathetic nervous system as a way to work with discursive and anxious thoughts.

There are many subtle body anatomy maps to study and play with, including the koshas and chakras, among many.

Working with secondary awareness, also referred to as the awareness of awareness, gives us an in-the-moment opportunity to make the choice to interrupt an unproductive pattern. It is the wisdom of growth.

On the road to growth and self-discovery, we are often presented with a variety of teachings, lineages, and practices; wisdom allows us to discern what works best for us without getting lost in the din. 

There are myriad practices available for exploration, something for everyone. We don’t always know why we end up where we are, but when it resonates, we know.  Over time, we get to look back and understand the wisdom of the journey through the perspective of a wider lens.

Theresa shared a definition she recalled from her time on this path, “Wisdom is the ability to perceive the unintended consequences of both actions and inactions.” This provides for reality that not making a choice is making a choice.  It’s not always what we choose to do, but what we choose not to do. It’s the choice that allows us to interrupt patterns AND there are consequences to both.

Wisdom is knowing what you don't know or even that you don't know.

Wisdom may arrive in the form of trust. When we have faith in the messages we receive and the circumstances we are in, we cultivate the ground for wisdom.

Sherry reads a story about a Zen Master (link below). It not only speaks to knowing when enough is enough, it reveals how we must empty our cups to receive teachings, that if we arrive full with what we know, our opinions, and stories, there won't be space for learning. That's wisdom.

NOTE: For those who felt left hanging after Sherry referenced Surya (Sun) and were wondering about its counterpart (which fizzled in the conversation) - Chandra (moon).

Sources and mentions from the show:

Zen Master Story with the Teacup

This episode looks at play through the lens of Manomayakosha, the mental/emotional sheath (see Koshas, Season 1). Slipping into a playful mindset is beneficial in many ways.

• Enhances creativity
• Reduces stress
• Improves problem-solving skills
• Increases resilience
• Strengthens social bonds
• Boosts self-confidence
• Elevates mood
• Enhances cognitive function
• Helps with emotional regulation
• Increases optimism

Theresa and Sherry share stories of how play has shown up in their lives, from jobs to grandkids. They explore the value of play through storytelling, song, and poetry, and its capacity for healing. They also touch on the shadow side of play, including being overly competitive.

Ultimately, they agree that a playful mindset is essential for optimal growth, connection, and overall wellness.

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Sources & Mentions from the Show:

• Wetlands, NYC - Environmental Rock-n-Roll Nightclub (closed 2001)
• Kids' Music Round
• Cortina Institute
• Bone Dance - Hannah Montana song
• Backgammon
• Jenga
• Anatomy Trains Tom Myers
• Psoas - a/k/a Theresa's favorite muscle (because it's the filet mignon of the cow)
• Robert Schleip

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Our Amazing Team:

Judith George - Editor (video & audio)

Keith Kenny - Music

Cindy Fatsis - Photography

Here we are at episode 85, only three more to follow before we wrap up these conversations.

We are sad to announce that the CAMP experience we lovingly curated was ultimately canceled (so please do not see this as an invitation to come to CAMP this summer, rather an invitation to see the magic in your life and add a dash of play to your daily doings).

These final show notes will reflect the casual nature of our conversations (no more time-stamped synopses).

At the time of recording, we were still moving fully forward with CAMP, sharing the M inspiration, including Mindfulness, Magic, and Movement, while examining them through the lens of Pranamayakosha (the energy sheath). In these practices we see the energy as riding the breath. There is immense power of breath in the creation and direction of energy.

Pranayama is the term for breathing practices in Yoga. Certain breath practices can influence the parasympathetic nervous system, promoting calm and restoration, while others can amp us up when necessary. Both are valuable and accessible through the breath.

It may seem counter-intuitive to have to learn to breathe, but since the breath is the one aspect of the autonomic nervous system that can also be directed on purpose, it holds a lot of power.

We talk about different practices including open-eyed mindfulness meditation, closing eyes for a different experience of accessing one's energetic body, and Theresa's Sit Spot practice among others.

There's so much packed into this episode, going back to our origin stories (some only accessed through old journals). We discussed the power of words and Theresa mentioned that the word Spelling has the word SPELL right there!

Sherry started to share a story about a spell she used when she met her husband. She shared one ritual (putting his name in a bowl of sugar) and how he called as soon as the match went out - what she forgot to mention was that she lit the match while speaking words given to her by a friend, a spell of sorts. The words ended, the match went out, her future husband called in that very moment!

We both walked down memory lane, to the best of our recollections.

In the end, we conclude with the potent reminder of of the gift of life and the abundance of magical energy around and within us.

Have a listen!

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Mentions from the show:

Nadi Shodhana

Reverse Breathing

Mindfulness Meditation Instruction - eyes open

TED Talk - How I made friends with reality - Emily Levine

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Our Amazing Team:

Judith George - Editor (video & audio)

Keith Kenny - Music

Cindy Fatsis - Photography

On today's episode, we announced that our final podcast will be E88. We still have a few more things to discuss in our weekly casual conversation, but we also feel it coming to its natural conclusion.

Anecdotal Anatomy (the podcast) will be now be Anecdotal Anatomy in Action (seasonal signature programs - mostly live, some virtual).

Our next program is CAMP (8/4 &5), a place for women to gather, play, practice, laugh, and generally just BE. We are using these final episodes to end as we began, using the Koshas as a model for looking at the various aspects and pillars of CAMP through the layers of our being. If you're local to Bucks County, PA and would like to join the fun, click any CAMP you see in these Show Notes.

This episode touches on the A in cAmp which stands for Awareness, Alignment, and Anecdotes, as seen through Anamayakosha (the Food Body).

In a nutshell, this conversation is about the awareness of the physical body, its alignment and the stories it holds and tells.

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Here is a very brief breakdown, time-stamped summary:

• 00:00:45 Announcement of wrapping up the podcast.
• 00:01:24 Koshas are our jam. 
• 00:01:30 Plans for the final five episodes.
• 00:01:44 Join us on this journey!
• 00:02:28 CAMP, the koshas and practices, as well as details for signing up.
• 00:04:23 Upcoming programs
• 00:04:44 And today we're going back to Anamayakosha 
• 00:05:02 The A in camp is about Alignment. Awareness, and Anecdotes.
• 00:06:33 Food/Body relationship
• 00:07:23 Value of the all the Koshas.
• 00:08:11 Koshas as inspiration for our programs
• 00:08:36 Awareness
• 00:09:48 Digestion as a system, as well as a metaphor for taking in information.
• 00:10:06 Reference to Shauna Ahern, guest from first season who wrote the book, Gluten-Free Girl – How I Found the Food that Loves Me Back…& How You Can Too.
• 00:10:42 Shauna’s story through Sherry’s best recollection.
• 00:11:47 Body’s direct reaction to food.
• 00:12:13 Oreos!
• 00:12:54 Not a diet, more feeling your best.
• 00:13:03 Practices we offer increase our ability to more deeply know ourselves.
• 00:13:19 Finding the whispers in their edges to deepen awareness.
• 00:14:02 Body stories
• 00:15:30 Body awareness
• 00:15:50 Alignment
• 00:16:40 John Sarno (see sources below) and talk therapy for back pain.
• 00:17:50 Sherry’s story of patterns of her back pain.
• 00:19:02 Accessing the koshas to help alleviate discomfort.
• 00:19:30 We have many tools for healing, emotional and/or muscular-skeletal.
• 00:20:17 Theresa’s story of what many of her clients say about their pain. 
• 00:20:41 Soft tissue as a character

This week, Theresa & Sherry explore the transformational journey that happens when we connect through creativity, community and communication. This journey is different for each traveler.

Focusing on their on live programs and events, this episode is the first in the acronym breakdown of CAMP, an immersive adult camp coming up in August.

The C in CAMP is for Creativity, Community, Communication and, of course, Connection. This episode explores these various C-energies in the context of inner transformation.

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:00 - Introduction

00:01:43 - Importance of Communication

00:04:41 - Pebbles on the Path

00:09:43 - The Seed of Transformation

00:12:38 - Building Community

00:14:59 - The Importance of Listening in Communication

00:16:12 - The Chakra System and Communication

00:17:56 - Awareness and Patterns in Communication

00:19:48 - Transformation and the Importance of Small Changes

00:21:53 - Finding Communities and Discovering What We Love

00:29:07 - Workshop with Julia Cameron and Sonia Choquette 

00:31:27 - The Importance of Nurturing Creativity

00:33:37 - The Elements of Transformation

00:38:37 - The Power of Community and Reflection

00:41:49 - The Joy and Power of Play

00:45:11 - "Introduction: Everything We Talk About"

00:46:04 - "Reading Each Other and the Unseen Audience"

00:47:40 - "The Creative Process and Collaboration"

00:48:59 - "The Role of Communication, Community, and Creativity"

00:52:18 - "Gratitude and Playfulness in Transformation"

Episode Goodie Bag:

CAMP information and registration

Julia Cameron - The Artist's Way

Sonia Choquette - The Psychic Pathway

Our Amazing Team:

Judith George - Editor (video & audio)

Keith Kenny - Music

Cindy Fatsis - Photography

This episode on acknowledging and honoring our teachers was poetically recorded on Guru Purinima (a Hindu, Buddhist celebration of teachers - it honors the day the first guru was born - click link for more information).

This personal episode has the hosts reaching back for memories of primary and secondary teachers, as well as their own identification as teachers. Both agree that their students often show up as teachers. In the world of reflection, everything has the capacity of being a teacher, if we pay attention.

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:00 - The Teacher-Student Dynamics

The hosts discuss the flip-flop of teacher and student roles and how learning can come from unexpected sources, such as animals.

00:03:24 - Lessons from Animals

The hosts talk about the lessons we can learn from animals and how observing them can provide valuable insights.

00:05:02 - The Once and Future King

The hosts discuss the book "The Once and Future King" and how it explores the concept of transformation and learning through different perspectives.

00:07:34 - Critical Thinking and Learning

The hosts share their experiences with education and how critical thinking and curiosity are important for true learning.

00:10:05 - Impact of Teachers

The hosts reflect on the impact of teachers on their learning journey and how teachers can either foster or hinder a student's progress.

00:15:12 - The Importance of Teaching and Absorbing Information

The hosts discuss the importance of teaching in fully absorbing and understanding information. They mention that there is data suggesting that we absorb different amounts of information through hearing, reading, and seeing. They also share their personal experiences of how teaching has helped them gain a clearer focus on yoga philosophy and other aspects of their practice.

00:16:14 - Seeing Classrooms as a Circle of Learning

The hosts talk about their perspective on classrooms and teaching. They view all classrooms as a circle and see themselves as arcs within that circle. They mention how Sean Corn's statement about having the capacity to communicate information in a way that people can best receive it resonated with them. They emphasize the importance of communication, humor, and personal anecdotes in teaching.

00:17:36 - Learning from Students

The hosts share an example of how they learned from a student during a yoga class. The student expressed reluctance to perform a cleansing breath because she felt it would be wasting her prana. This perspective made the hosts reconsider their teaching approach and they adjusted it to encourage mindfulness and directing the breath and energy towards someone who could benefit from it. They highlight the importance of listening to and learning from students.

00:20:27 - Transforming Teaching Approach

One of the hosts reflects on a teaching experience where none of the students did the assigned reading. Initially, they reacted with frustration and employed a punishment-like approach. However, they realized their mistake and transformed the situation into a positive teaching moment by having students teach

00:29:59 - Mr. Woodley's Intuition

The narrator reflects on their experience with Mr. Woodley, a coach who showed understanding and support during their nose job. Mr. Woodley recommended the narrator for Honors English and expressed belief in their potential.

00:31:13 - Mr. G and...

Aging is a gift, unique to each person's unfolding. This week, we talk about aging in an empowering way and without judgement. We talk about cultivating vitality rather than chasing youth.

Vitality feels like youth in the body's ability to be agile and strong, while operating from the aggregated wisdom of each era.

The key moments in this episode are:

• 00:00:00 - Feeling the Shift at 25
• 00:03:18 - Being Present for Participants
• 00:04:37 - Birthdays and Aging
• 00:10:02 - The Perception of Age
• 00:11:51 - Embracing Change
• 00:14:05 - The Importance of Working on Major Goals and Life Purpose
• 00:15:34 - Overidentification with Body and Embracing Change
• 00:16:51 - The External Mirror Reflection and Self-Care
• 00:19:30 - Embracing the Cycles of Life and Change
• 00:21:58 - Challenging Cultural Norms and Subjective Age
• 00:29:05 - The Relationship Between Dairy and Bone Health
• 00:30:14 - The Holistic View of the Body
• 00:32:39 - Mindset and Aging
• 00:33:44 - Honoring Wisdom and Elders
• 00:34:58 - Cultivating a Positive Mindset and Healing
• 00:45:17 - The Importance of Memory and Mental Exercise
• 00:47:30 - Social Engagement for Staying Young
• 00:49:20 - Exploring the Difference in Longevity
• 00:49:52 - The Power of Words and Self-Perception
• 00:52:04 - Rewriting Stories and Embracing Vitality

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Kick the Can excerpt and commentary (spoiler alert)

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Our Amazing Team:

Judith George - Editor (video & audio)

Keith Kenny - Music

Cindy Fatsis - Photography