This is part two of a shadow work series. To hear part one, listen to episode 37

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John Warmb of the band Rent Strike returns to the show & talks to Pepe about recording their latest album Möbius Strip Mall & why thye often makes concept albums. A large portion of the conversation focuses on the power of words & the magic that flows through & out of them. Together, Pepe & John explore some practical of examples of how we cast a spell with the words we speak & how that can affect the very fabric of reality for better or for worse.

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HIGHLIGHTS:

• Thoughts on concept albums
• The story of the Möbius Strip Mall
• Advertising is like sorcery
• Laurel Airica word alchemy
• Words as spells
• A snitch spoke magic words that led Pepe to prison
• The liberating value of using or not using certain words
• Language & perception
• Dr. Emoto water experiment
• Does John have any new beliefs since recording the latest album
• Covid, collapse & the time for liberating acts
• Exploring our escape plans through music

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In this episode of Back on the Grind, Pepe Bandit discusses the transformative power of the shadow. Drawing from his background in life coaching, cognitive behavioral therapy, trauma recovery & more, he aims to help others understand the shadow correctly. He discusses the differences between repression & suppression & how shadow material can accumulate over time & unconsciously influence our behavior & relationships.

Pepe delves into the concept of exploring the parts of ourselves that we often deny or refuse to acknowledge. He shares his own journey & personal anecdotes to illustrate how these shadow aspects actually manifest in our thoughts & behaviors, highlighting the duality of human nature—our capacity for both compassion & cruelty. The episode emphasizes the importance of self-awareness & acceptance of all facets of our identity for personal growth & healthier interactions with others. The episode also touches on the relevance of these themes in the context of Halloween, a time traditionally associated with hauntings & the unseen.

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HIGHLIGHTS

• We all have hauntings that we can never fully escape
• Your shadow contains unwanted or “unhelpful” parts of ourselves we deny
• The shadow is not inherently evil; it's part of us
• Shadow material often stems from childhood experiences
• Repression vs. suppression
• How shadow material can manifest unconsciously in our lives
• Shadow work requires confronting uncomfortable truths about ourselves
• Engaging in shadow work is essential for personal and societal growth
• "Demon Song" by PT Burnem is played

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Todays COFFEE BREAK features an exclusive clip from our patreon featuring P.T. Burnem. He discusses meditation and Pepe shares a story about toilets in prison.

Article about prison toilets: https://prisonjournalismproject.org/2024/10/21/what-its-like-to-poop-prison/?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=other

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Listen to the full episode #3, Getting Intuitive with P.T. Burnem:

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3zm4GV74nCNqe3PVoI0Ucj?si=3ea42318f9064c26

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/getting-intuitive-with-p-t-burnem-3/id1681556943?i=1000613055220

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"We became mermaids at the parade."

In this conversation Pepe does his best to get The Looms to open up about some rumors surrounding the band. They share their unique journey, touching on themes of rituals, personal loss, and the collaborative nature of songwriting. The band members reflect on their diverse backgrounds, from metal influences, philosophical studies & working in the medical field. The discussion culminates in a deep dive into the meaning behind their song 'Mourning Star'. The band members share their experiences with live performances, stepping out of their comfort zones, and the impact of digital communication. We close out playing the song 'Mourning Star.'

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HIGHLIGHTS:

• Pepe's attempt to get to the bottom of rumors about the "Order Of The Loominati"...
• The Mermaid Parade
• Rituals and their impact on individuals
• The songwriting process is collaborative and involves all members
• The band's history is intertwined with personal growth and friendship
• How 'Morning Star' reflects deep personal loss & the search for direction
• Live performances can lead to unexpected mistakes and funny stories
• Stepping out of comfort zones
• Communication in the digital age & anxiety
• Upcoming projects
• We play the song "Mourning Star"

THE LOOMS - listen & connect:

• Spotify open.spotify.com/artist/7iwcth8DNQNQPpzEMntFQG?si=sEEdBMIlQ3qVCByaR5fGZQ
• Bandcamp thelooms.bandcamp.com/music
• Instagram instagram.com/theloomsband/
• Website thelooms.band/home

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In this conversation, Pepe Bandit and Jo Rodriguez discuss the impact of music on their lives, particularly folk punk music. They share personal stories of how certain musicians or songs have helped them through difficult times and provided a sense of grounding. They also discuss imposter syndrome and the challenges of feeling like they don't belong in certain spaces or conversations. Jo mentions her experience growing up in a (ex)Mormon family and how it has influenced her music. She plans to write a song about her parents' journey out of the Mormon church as a way to find forgiveness and peace. The conversation covers various themes, including anger towards parents, the impact of trauma, the desire to have a house venue, and the narration of an audiobook.

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takeaways

• Music has the power to provide comfort and grounding during difficult times
• Happy Happy, Apes Of The State & Rent Strike stories
• Imposter syndrome is a common experience, even for musicians and podcasters
• Personal experiences, such as growing up in a religious community, can shape an artist's music and lyrics
• Religious trauma
• Writing songs can be a way to find forgiveness and peace
• Sharing personal stories and vulnerabilities through music can create connections and resonate with listeners.
• Having a house venue can be a way to give back to the community
• Narrating an audiobook can be a meaningful way to contribute to projects that explore important themes and experiences
• Exploring personal experiences and emotions through music can be cathartic and healing
• We play the song "Practical Advice" by Jo Rodriguez

Connect with Jo Rodriguez:

Instagram - instagram.com/jobanjobanjo/?hl=en

Facebook - facebook.com/people/Jo-Rodriguez/100004513473999/?ref=xav_ig_profile_web

Website - jobanjobanjo.com/

Listen to Jo Rodriguez music:

Spotify - open.spotify.com/artist/2xADBEPdn61I8UPTHbJ2Xw

Bandcamp - jobanjobanjo.bandcamp.com/

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"In any corner of the radical left it makes most sense for this conversation to be happening, in my opinion, it's in the folk punk world."

Community organizer and musician shugE joins Pepe to discuss the tactics of cancel culture & rethink if they align with folk punk & radical politics in general. Is cancel culture the best way to create a better world? Does it reproduce harmful aspects of the carceral/prison system? Plenty of folks have expressed concerns & fears about discussing these topics freely . As a result the conversation very often happens privately, outside the public discourse but, shugE & Pepe choose to have it openly through this public platform. The conversation is at times difficult & uncomfortable but remains honest with a desire for a better world full of more compassion & care for every one of us living in it. We close out playing the song "With Me" by shugE.

HIGHLIGHTS:

• Organizing with the IWW
• Getting canceled & getting exonerated
• Seeking out commonalities rather than our differences
• Does cancel culture even exist?
• Famous people & cancel culture
• Defining cancel culture
• Pepe realizes the similarities between cancel culture & his own incarceration experience
• Hypocrisy of supporting prison abolition & cancel culture/putting people in social prisons
• Working with people who experienced sexual abuse/assault
• Working with people who have problematic/harmful behaviors
• Restorative justice
• Why cancel culture is attractive
• Getting to a place of healing
• Daryl Davis & the KKK story
• Self-censorship
• The recovery movement & its role in questioning cancel culture
• Folkpunk has a history of embracing the "rejects" of society
• The "commons" as a place for open discussion
• We play the song "With Me" by shugE

Connect with shugE:

instagram.com/shugemusic/

shugemusic.com

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John Crunch comes on to share his story of opening a successful gay bar (The LURE) in the 90's. We also dive into what it was like to discover punk rock & the fact he was gay when he was younger. From there we follow his story to becoming a state trooper at 19, facing harassment/resigning, moving to NYC, getting sober, supporting folk punk and much more. Overall, John is just a regular guy who lived an interesting life & loves folk punk. Enjoy!

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HIGHLIGHTS:

• John's early life & intro to punk rock
• Having ADHD in the 80's
• Coming to acknowledge he was gay
• Getting hired as a state trooper at a young age
• Difficulties & resigning from a homophobic job
• Thoughts on NYC & Opening a gay bar in the 90's
• The intersection of punk & gay culture
• Why investors of the LURE (gay bar) didn't want their real names to be known
• How mainstream culture viewed the gay community in the 90's
• Complications opening & running a gay bar
• Pros & Cons (for communities) with the rise of the internet/apps
• Discovering & supporting folk punk
• Getting injured & developing a new understanding of disability
• Getting sober
• Favorite folk punk bands
• Song - "I Love You To Death" by Never Say Surrender

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