Zora speaks with us about her ‘jump’ from working for a number of high end organisations…Including Apple, Deloitte, Ericsson, Ikea and Syngenta to name a few…as a psychologist, senior people partner numerous leadership teams…to becoming a ‘mumpreneur’ who works with mindset and behaviour disruption.

Through this work Zora crafts really concrete and tangible journeys for leaders to evolve not only their career, but also the evolution of their overall wellbeing.

We cover a lot in this conversation and I cannot wait for you to tune in.

Zora brings us so much wisdom from her insights in the arenas of neurodiversity, behaviour change, disruption, psychological unsafety, and our day to day choices.

Power Takeaways:

• 20 years in corporate human resources.

• Being a mumpreneur in ‘growth phase’.

• Exploring how Zora’s ADHD has played out in her life.

• Emotional regulation and impulse control. Thanking ADHD for giving Zora the courage to jump out of Apple.

• Relating impulsive decisions to buying dogs and houses (and whirlpools!)

• When male executives are given the space and opportunity to take off the harness

• We often see the ‘A’ in the alpha male as one thing…very quickly it can turn to Anxiety or Apathy.

• To help ‘armour down’ and to offer powerful tools for these leaders so that they have choice over their behaviour again.

• What does it mean to have psychological unsafety?

• Exploring what “beautiful mess” means to Zora.

• Connecting this framework to parenting her two children.

• Planting the seeds of her business in the garden of growth…and we have to be ok with our garden looking like a beautiful mess of a garden.

Resources Mentioned:

Zora’s website: https://www.zoralazarov.com/ Zora’s linkedin: linkedin.com/in/zoralazarov

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@zoralazarov Insta: https://www.instagram.com/zoralazarov

Steve Arntz is the co-founder of ‘Campfire’...and a father and a husband.

Steve speaks about realising what ‘family first’ really means to him…what it really feels like to commit to that statement.

We hear about Steve’s spouse and children.

We hear how Steve has managed to get back to his family being the centre of his world and how challenging that has been throughout his entrepreneurial journey.

Steve speaks very openly about what Campfire means to him and all he is building with this work as a founder, parent and entrepreneur.

His mission statement with this work is so powerful: ‘Universal access to meaningfully connected experiences that inspire people to live better lives together’.

We explore the seed of why Steve wanted to build this platform and all it provides to support his ‘augmented humanity’ mission with the work and technology he’s building with Campfire.

The three questions that started everything…

1. What got you to this place right here?
2. Where do you want to go?
3. How are you planning to get there?

People just loved these conversations…and still do!

How creating a pack of cards based on thousands of hours of research began the process towards Campfire.

A conversation filled with honesty, integrity and inspiration.

Power Takeaways:

• We can trick ourselves into thinking that work first equals family first…especially if your mission driven then work becomes first and family comes second.

• It’s taken 15 years to know and feel that family first = family first.

• The mission of Campfire is true and real.

• Mission Statement: ‘universal access to meaningfully connected experiences that inspire people to live better lives together’.

• How universal access to conversations and connection for people everywhere.

• Technology built that supports facilitated guided spaces.

• Reference to Esther Perel’s alternative meaning when she speaks about “AI”...’Artificial Intelligence’.

• ‘Augmented humanity’ …how can we start to see technology as a way to bring out our humanity and accentuate our humanity we will ‘win’.

• The power of asking the question ‘why are you here?’ and ‘what do you want to have happen next?’.

• Asked the three questions and then mapped out the data that came back.

• How the physical sketches that inspired this work started.

• How building a deck of cards was the start of this.

• How Steve has moved from being (self confessed) self centric and moved across to ‘others centric’. It can take years!!

• How he is devoted to building conversations for people.
• Find the most important relationship in your life and what is the one thing I can do to enhance, build or make that relationship better.

Resources Mentioned:

https://www.getcampfire.com/

https://www.stevearntz.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevearntz/

Keri-Lynne Shaw describes herself as a …..

KL describes how much power the phrase has for her when it comes to life and when it comes to career.

We explore the frequent ‘mucky/messy’ situations that KL has come across as a Chief People Officer. How important it is to talk about these messy situations, and how by talking about it allows us to explore the difficult situations we discover in our work.

Most people do not like to have messy conversations.

There has to be something we pay attention to when it comes to being a leader. Most organisations will cut the development budget first…and so the support isn’t there…and so many leaders do not take the initiative to build self awareness and hold themselves accountable.

The importance of failure, and how in some organisations that either do not allow failure at all…or the fear overrides everything, people cannot grow.

How our children can be so different to us, and how we can learn from them. As a parent…there are a few years through the teenage years, you feel like the dumbest person on the planet.

We don’t have a playbook on being a parent…and the messages that matter most.

We include three diamond questions!

1. What do you love?
2. What are really really good at?
3. How do you want to make an impact on the world?

The beautiful leaders and the ‘horrible’ leaders…and how we can learn so much from both.

Power Takeaways:

• The belief that I have to somehow divide my work and my life …and it’s so important that we get to choose.
• It’s such a beautiful idea that we get to see beauty in the mess.
• There is no straight line…not in parenting, not in career…not in anything!
• Turning failure into learning…everything is learning.
• The importance of hiring a coach when you get stuck.
• There’s only two things I can control…1. How I show up, and 2. How I treat others… and the rest of it is not up to me.
• When we’re triggered, it’s on us to get curious.
• We cannot control other people’s ‘shut down’ or trigger.
• Our communication can always be finessed.
• How do you think about the red thread in your life and in your career?
• You only have a short window to tell your story…and understanding how to tell that story will help you identify the values that match with the company you’re interviewing with.
• How to do the money conversation…how to present it and when to present it.
• You won’t get to the money conversation until you’ve done your work on the ‘red thread’.
• Taking the time to understand yourself, and your value add.
• You want the other person to be in a situation where they cannot imagine the world without you.
• Leaders that believe in us give us the confidence to do more, and want more and allow us to take the risks.
• Feel what you feel when you feel it, and don’t apologise for it.
• We need more emotion in work…we need to see those big feelings.

Resources Mentioned:

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