Ever felt like cybersecurity is always the team that says “no” to everything?

Well, it’s time to change that narrative.

In this episode of Cyber After Hours—How to Prevent Security From Becoming the "Department of No"—we start off sharing laughs about New York snowstorms and the funny ways different cultures react to weather surprises.

But quickly, the discussion dives deeper, exploring Simon Sinek’s powerful concept of playing the “infinite game” rather than getting stuck on short-term wins.

Through candid personal stories, Paul and Evan tackle why security teams often get painted as the gatekeepers of “no.”

They share how shifting the focus from risk avoidance to storytelling and context can make cybersecurity a business enabler instead of a blocker.

We unpack real-world strategies for transforming security teams from risk-averse gatekeepers into innovative partners who say “yes”—strategically, of course!

This episode is all about balancing caution with courage, technical skills with empathy, and leadership with collaboration.

Whether you’re deep in the cybersecurity trenches or simply curious about building stronger, more positive security cultures, this episode offers humor, practical insights, and a fresh perspective on how to embrace the art of saying “yes.”

Tune in, grab your favorite beverage, and join us for another engaging round at Cyber After Hours—because cybersecurity is best served with a side of humanity.

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Evan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanmorgan/

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What happens when AI meets quantum computing in the heart of your SOC?

In this week’s episode of Cyber After Hours, we’re joined by Edward Wu, CEO of Dropzone AI, to explore just how fast the cybersecurity game is changing—and what it means for defenders trying to stay one step ahead.

From the frozen roofs of Syracuse to palm-sized quantum machines, we dive into a wide-ranging conversation on the future of cybersecurity.

Edward shares his journey from building alert-generating tools to creating AI agents that actually help analysts make sense of the noise—think SOC automation, but with purpose.

Then the real fun begins: quantum computing.

We dig into its impact on encryption, national security, and risk prediction—asking the big questions like,

Can quantum AI predict the exact day of a breach?

Or better yet, can it prevent one?

But it’s not all theory—we stay grounded in practical reality.

Edward breaks down why a fully autonomous SOC is still out of reach, and why the smartest play today is using AI to amplify, not replace, human analysts.

As Paul puts it, "The only limit right now is imagination."

Add in a few good-natured jabs about flip-flops vs. snow boots, some big questions about nation-state surveillance, and a surprising Star Trek tangent on quantum entanglement, and you’ve got a wild, thoughtful, and surprisingly human take on where cyber defense is headed.

If you’ve ever wondered how to future-proof your security program in the face of exponential tech growth, this is your episode.

Thanks for watching and listening!

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Evan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanmorgan/

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Ever wonder what a candid bar-side chat can teach us about the future of cybersecurity regulation?

In the latest episode of Cyber After Hours—“S1 E17: What’s Next for Cybersecurity Regulation?”—we look back at how this podcast began and share a key realization: it’s not just about cybersecurity or AI.

It’s about perspective, and how understanding the “why” behind decisions can transform the way we tackle complex, tech-driven challenges.

They reflect on the show’s humble origins and shine a light on the profound role of human insight in a field too often dominated by flashy tools and jargon.

With a nod to Simon Sinek’s “Golden Circle,” they highlight the value of digging into motives, not just methods.

In a relaxed, bar-like setting where unscripted humor mixes with expert know-how, you’ll get a front-row seat to the personal stories, thought-provoking questions, and spirited debates that make cybersecurity a truly people-centric endeavor.

Ready for a fresh take on the next wave of cybersecurity regulation—and the perspectives shaping it?

Tune in to Cyber After Hours, grab your favorite beverage, and join the conversation.

This is where technology meets humanity, one lively discussion at a time.

Thank you for watching / listening!

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Evan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanmorgan/

Paul: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pm01/

Ever wonder how someone juggling customer service, consulting, and sales can still find time for a debate on decaf coffee and cyber threats?

In this episode of Cyber After Hours, we sit down with Eric Gerena—whose colorful career path gives him a refreshingly unique perspective on staying motivated and delivering real value to clients.

From demystifying the art of sales (spoiler: it’s really about solving people’s problems) to revealing how post-quantum cryptography could upend today’s security protocols, we cover the spectrum of what’s next in cybersecurity.

Think biometrics, physical keys, and the cutting-edge world of quantum computing—all in one candid conversation.

But we don’t stop at the theoretical: we dig into practical insights, like how password managers (hello, YubiKey) and multi-factor authentication are making waves in industries like healthcare.

We also tackle the cultural hurdles of adopting new security tech—because let’s face it, not everyone is as excited about password changes as we are.

And yes, there’s a lighthearted detour about decaf coffee (trust us, it’s worth the laugh).

Tune in to find out why continuous innovation in digital security is crucial, what the future might hold for your organization’s authentication methods, and how a little bit of humor can keep you sane in the ever-evolving world of cybersecurity.

Join us for this lively deep dive—you won’t want to miss it!

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Evan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanmorgan/

Paul: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pm01/

Ever wish strategic planning felt more like a celebration and less like a chore?

In this episode, we pop the cork on what makes a planning session truly satisfying, from the thrill of crossing off to-do items to the power of hitting pause for some much-needed self-reflection.

Get ready to raise a glass—because by the end of this conversation, you’ll be toasting the art (and fun) of mapping out your next big moves.

Once the party hats come off, we dive headfirst into the cutting edge of cybersecurity.

AI models like DeepSeek take center stage, offering both enticing efficiencies and equally potent threats to data integrity and privacy.

We unravel how adversarial nations might exploit these innovations and discuss why there’s no room for shortcuts when security is on the line.

Finally, we chart an exciting course into the realms of AI and quantum computing.

Think AI agents, RAG models, and quantum superposition—tech frontiers that promise to reshape our daily lives and radically enhance how we identify and manage risk.

Our chat brims with curiosity and awe, exploring the momentous possibilities that quantum breakthroughs may unlock.

If you’re even remotely curious about the future of cybersecurity (or just love a good adventure story), this is one episode you won’t want to miss.

Tune in now!

Thank you for watching / listening! Connect with us on LinkedIn: - Evan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanmorgan/ - Paul: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pm01/

Ever wonder what would happen if paying cyber ransom demands was flat-out illegal?

In this lively new installment of Cyber After Hours—S1E14, “Should Governments Make It Illegal to Pay Cyber Extortion Demands?”—we explore exactly that.

Our guest is Ross, a dynamic entrepreneur operating in stealth mode, who adds fresh perspective (and a few laughs) to the conversation.

We share everything from goofy phishing scams promising toothbrush rewards to serious cautionary tales involving Uber and Equifax.

We dig into the controversial issue of banning ransomware payments, asking if companies should be forced to fend off attackers without cutting that check.

Real-world experiences and high-profile cases reveal the dangers of flawed decryption keys, repeated attacks, and the temptation to rely on quick fixes instead of building stronger defenses.

Ross’ entrepreneurial insights show why cybersecurity investments might be a better bet than gambling on a criminal’s word.

We also explore how government incentives and cyber insurance could reshape security strategies, pushing organizations to harden their defenses rather than pay their way out of trouble.

The parallels between cybersecurity and healthcare come into focus, highlighting why threat visibility and information sharing are so crucial.

Throughout the episode, we touch on the often-overlooked risks in operational technology and celebrate the growing influence of Chief Information Security Officers.

Their leadership—and the rise of trusted information-sharing networks—could spell a more secure future.

But it’s a team effort: everyone from executives to engineers plays a role in making it happen.

Join us for an engaging discussion that blends humor, entrepreneurship, and real talk about the crossroads of innovation and cybersecurity.

Tune in to Cyber After Hours to see how these stories and perspectives might just shape the way we tackle cyber threats moving forward.

Thank you for watching / listening! Connect with us on LinkedIn: - Evan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanmorgan/ - Paul: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pm01/

Ever wonder how facial hair fundraisers and cybersecurity connect?

In this lively episode of Cyber After Hours—S1E8 Patch Management: How to Handle Zero-Day Vulnerabilities—we kick off with humorous mustache mishaps (including one domestic faux pas!) before tackling the serious business of zero-day exploits.

From waxing poetic about handlebar mustaches to recounting the moment a seemingly secure environment was breached, our conversation moves from laughter to lessons learned.

We underscore why a defense-in-depth approach is essential, covering everything from vulnerability management and identity/access controls to the nuances of patch management and data loss prevention.

We also delve into the importance of trust—both within cybersecurity teams and with vendors and executives—highlighting how collaboration can make or break your security posture.

Throughout the episode, we share personal stories that reflect the passion, resilience, and occasional hilarity of working in cyber.

Whether you’re a tech novice or a seasoned professional, this episode offers insights, camaraderie, and a glimpse into the spirited life of cybersecurity experts.

Tune in, join the conversation, and learn how to fortify your defenses against the unknown!

Thank you for watching / listening! Connect with us on LinkedIn: - Evan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanmorgan/ - Paul: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pm01/

AI: The Ultimate Hacker or Cybersecurity’s Best Ally?

In this week’s episode of Cyber After Hours (S1E13 – The Role of AI in Offensive Cybersecurity), we crack open a few drinks and an even bigger debate: Is AI leveling the playing field in cyber, or tilting it in favor of the bad guys?

AI-powered attacks are no longer some sci-fi concept. Generative AI is handing cybercriminals—yes, even the amateurs—a playbook for crafting hyper-realistic phishing campaigns, automating reconnaissance, and scaling attacks like never before.

Financial services and other regulated industries are left wondering:

- Can they afford to stick with the status quo?

- And what happens when AI starts battling itself?

- How far off is a world where autonomous AI defends against AI-driven attacks?

Spoiler: There’s an Irish whiskey bet riding on this one.

Of course, it wouldn’t be Cyber After Hours without a few detours—like our take on Microsoft’s latest strong-arming tactics with Outlook (seriously, who asked for this?).

Plus, we get personal about the entrepreneurial grind and the unexpected lessons that come with it.

So, grab a drink, tune in, and let’s talk about the future of offensive AI in cybersecurity—because ready or not, it’s already here.

Thank you for watching / listening! Connect with us on LinkedIn: - Evan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanmorgan/ - Paul: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pm01/