We are back for the final time to discuss What If 308 the finale of What If? With gorgeous animation and some nods and hints to what could be out there this was a good capper on the show.

Executive Produced by: Matthew Chauncey, Bryan Andrews and Brad Winderbaum with Kevin Fiege.

Head Writer: Matthew Chauncey

Story by : Bryan Andrews, Matthew Chauncey, and Ryan Little

Teleplay by : Matthew Chauncey and Ryan Little

Episode Directed By: Bryan Andrews

In a flashback, it's revealed that the Watcher was once a Watcher disciple named Uatu who was recruited to become a full Watcher by the Eminence.

In the present, the Watcher is placed on trial for his repeated interferences, namely giving Strange Supreme the information he needed to recreate his own universe, and saving Riri Williams, Kwai Jun-Fan, Reed Richards, Nick Fury and Madisynn King, as well as his actions regarding Captain Carter.

The two are rescued by Ultron who sacrifices himself to buy them time to escape. Under attack, the Watcher grants his friends the powers of a Watcher and Carter sacrifices herself to transport everyone to Strange Supreme's reborn universe where Strange renders the other Watchers powerless.

Embracing his existence and naming himself Uatu he convinces the humbled Eminence that there are lessons to be learned in every corner of the Multiverse and they should join together to improve the lives of all they survey.

As they mourn Captain Carter's death, the Watcher invites Kahhori, Byrdie and Storm to rejoice in her life and ponder the question “What’s Next?”.

• Hayley Atwell as Peggy Carter / Captain Carter
• Jason Isaacs as the Eminence
• Devery Jacobs as Kahhori
• Alison Sealy-Smith as Ororo Munroe / Storm the Goddess of Thunder
• Natasha Lyonne as Byrdie
• Ross Marquand as Infinity Ultron
• D. C. Douglas as the Incarnate
• Darin De Paul as the Executioner

As we are returning to the Marvel TV universe we are using the format of our former Marvel podcast, Defenders TV Podcast. We discuss: - What if we had a Top 3 points about the episode.

What have we seen before, What's the change, what does this mean for this episodes universe - Whether we each Defend the episode or not - Notes, Quotes and comic references

Once you've watched the episodes you can email us to feedback@tvpodcastindustries.com, you can message us @TVPodIndustries on Threads or Bluesky or join our Facebook group at https://facebook.com/groups/tvpodcastindustries and share your thoughts in our spoiler posts for each episode.

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Thanks for joining us for all of our What If? podcasts over the last 3 seasons. We hope you'll join us for our podcasts in 2025. Just in time for the 10th anniversary of the start of our Marvel podcast we'll be returning to where it all began with Daredevil in March.

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Until then, Keep Watching, Keep Listening and Keep Defending.

Derek, Chris and John

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John and Derek are back for the penultimate episode as we discuss What If 307 What If The Watcher Disappeared? This episode brings back major characters, introduces a new hero and welcomes the first MCU appearance of a fan favourite mutant.

Executive Produced by: Matthew Chauncey, Bryan Andrews and Brad Winderbaum with Kevin Fiege.

Head Writer: Matthew Chauncey

Story by : Bryan Andrews, Matthew Chauncey, and Ryan Little

Teleplay by : Matthew Chauncey and Ryan Little

Episode Directed By: Stephan Franck

In the Fifth Dimension, the Watcher stands trial before the other three Watchers— consisting of the Eminence, the Incarnate, and the Executioner— while Captain Peggy Carter leads a team consisting of Kahhori, a grown-up Byrdie, and Storm the Goddess of Thunder on stopping the multiversal incursions.

After preventing an inter-dimensional universe-eater from attacking Earth-625, Carter and her team notice the three shards of the Watcher's observatory, and resolve to go help him.

After their first attempts to synthesize the shards fail and cost them two shards, the group consider requesting help from a variant of Infinity Ultron, while also agreeing to use Time Variance Authority (TVA) equipment to prune him should he go rogue.

After a heart-to-heart with Storm, Carter resolves to meet with Infinity Ultron alone, only to be captured by the Eminence.

Noticing Carter went missing, Kahhori, Byrdie, and Storm confront Ultron, who reveals that he has realised there is no peace without life and concludes that he made a mistake in extinguishing all life in his universe. Though it is too late for redemption, he is willing to atone for his actions and absorbs the shard before agreeing to take them to rescue Carter and the Watcher.

• Hayley Atwell as Peggy Carter / Captain Carter
• Jason Isaacs as the Eminence
• Devery Jacobs as Kahhori
• Alison Sealy-Smith as Ororo Munroe / Storm the Goddess of Thunder
• Natasha Lyonne as Byrdie
• Karen Gillan as Nebula
• Kat Dennings as Darcy Lewis
• Seth Green as Howard the Duck
• Taika Waititi as Korg
• Ross Marquand as Infinity Ultron
• Fred Tatasciore as Groot
• D. C. Douglas as the Incarnate
• Darin De Paul as the Executioner
• Alexandra Daniels as Carol Danvers / Captain Marvel.

As we are returning to the Marvel TV universe we are using the format of our former Marvel podcast, Defenders TV Podcast. We discuss: - What if we had a Top 3 points about the episode.

What have we seen before, What's the change, what does this mean for this episodes universe - Whether we each Defend the episode or not - Notes, Quotes and comic references

Once you've watched the episodes you can email us to feedback@tvpodcastindustries.com, you can message us @TVPodIndustries on Threads or Bluesky or join our Facebook group at https://facebook.com/groups/tvpodcastindustries and share your thoughts in our spoiler posts for each episode.

If you want to keep up with us and all of our podcasts, please subscribe to the podcast over at https://tvpodcastindustries.com. Where we will continue to podcast about multiple TV shows we hope you'll love.

Thanks for joining us for our What If? season 3 episode 7 podcast and we hope you'll join us for our podcasts on the final episode of What If? next time.

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Until then, Keep Watching, Keep Listening and Keep Defending.

Derek, Chris and John

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Taking a page from comics Derek and John travel to the old west for What If 306 What If 1872? This adventure featuring Shang-Chi, Hawkeye and The Hood is a perfect entry into What If.

Executive Produced by: Matthew Chauncey, Bryan Andrews and Brad Winderbaum with Kevin Fiege.

Head Writer: Matthew Chauncey

Story by : Bryan Andrews, Matthew Chauncey, and Ryan Little

Teleplay by : Matthew Chauncey and Ryan Little

Episode Directed By: Stephan Franck and Bryan Andrews

In the 1860s, Xu Xialing fled to America for a better life only to fall victim to The Hood's plan to vilify Chinese immigrants in order to consolidate his power.

In 1872, Shang-Chi is searching for his sister alongside Kate Bishop, who wants revenge on the Hood for killing her family. They find a decimated township and meet a boy, Kwai Jun-Fan, who claims the Hood attacked and left on a ghost train.

Shang-Chi, Bishop, and Jun-Fan find and board the train, where they discover that the missing immigrants have been brainwashed by the Hood's enforcer Sonny Burch.

The Watcher helps Jun-Fan survive while Shang-Chi and Bishop are taken to the Hood, revealed to be a corrupted Xialing, who killed the original Hood and stole his powers.

Burch confesses to killing Bishop's parents and attempts to brainwash her, until Jun-Fan rings the bell, freeing the prisoners and allowing Kate to knock Burch out. Shang-Chi refuses to join or fight Xialing and Kate Bishop kills her.

Later, the pair observe Jun-Fan telling his heroic story to the other immigrants and they ride off into the sunset.

Subsequently, the Watcher is confronted by three other Watchers for his interference and a few shards of their observatory spill into the multiverse.

• Simu Liu as Xu Shang-Chi
• Hailee Steinfeld as Kate Bishop
• Wyatt Russell as John Walker / U.S. Agent
• Meng'er Zhang as Xu Xialing / The Hood
• Walton Goggins as Sonny Burch
• Allen Deng as Kwai Jun-Fan
• Jason Isaacs as the Eminence.

As we are returning to the Marvel TV universe we are using the format of our former Marvel podcast, Defenders TV Podcast. We discuss: - What if we had a Top 3 points about the episode.

What have we seen before, What's the change, what does this mean for this episodes universe - Whether we each Defend the episode or not - Notes, Quotes and comic references

Once you've watched the episodes you can email us to feedback@tvpodcastindustries.com, you can message us @TVPodIndustries on Threads or Bluesky or join our Facebook group at https://facebook.com/groups/tvpodcastindustries and share your thoughts in our spoiler posts for each episode.

If you want to keep up with us and all of our podcasts, please subscribe to the podcast over at https://tvpodcastindustries.com. Where we will continue to podcast about multiple TV shows we hope you'll love.

Thanks for joining us for our What If? season 3 episode 6 podcast and we hope you'll join us for our podcasts for the rest of the final season of What If?

Make sure to check out our full feed at https://tvpodcastindustries.com

Until then, Keep Watching, Keep Listening and Keep Defending.

Derek, Chris and John

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