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Karen Stillman from Baby Making Genius is back on the podcast to discuss her relationship with her grandfathers and share her thoughts about her father as a grandpa. We are introduced to George (Granddad) and Henry (Grandpa Daddy)and their relationship with Karen and her siblings. Continuing our discussion, we hear how Granddad was a scary grandfather and Grandpa Daddy was a fun-loving card-playing grandfather. Grandpa Daddy introduced the kids to the game Crib or Cribbage. We learn that the grandkids were brought up playing by 'grandpa's rules,' meaning grandpa typically won the game. Grandpa Daddy would also let the grandchildren drive/ steer the car down to the country store for treats. Granddad, who was scary, owned a garage and loved his fish tanks. He didn't talk very much, and Karen remembers him smelling of grease, tobacco, and sweat. As Karen remembers it, Grandad had a particular way of talking to them that made the kids uneasy. We continue discussing how men can sometimes give off a scary vibe. As this energy is most likely unintentional, grandfathers can do a few things to be a bit more welcoming and fun-loving with their grandchildren. You are going to enjoy these memories that Karen shares with us. She does a great job of sharing fun memories and great advice from both a granddaughter's and a mother's point of view. Once you have listened to this program, please remember to like, subscribe to the podcast, and share it with a friend. Links You can use the following link to visit Dr. Karen'swebsite: Here is the link to Dr. Karen's Facebook Page: . Dr. Karen would enjoy connecting with you on LinkedIn. You can do so by using this link: Here is the link to my previous conversation with Karen: I invite you to join me at Grandparents Week by clicking this link: . If you want to sign up for my course, Intentional Grandfathering, please use this link: Karen's phone number is (+1) 613-314-9802 You can watch this conversation on YouTube by clicking on this link: .