🎧 Episode Summary:

In this raw and thought-provoking chat, Lionel and Matt sit down with Lionel’s brother-in-law, John Paul Saab—better known as JP—founder of ID Fitouts. From humble beginnings and first jobs to building a thriving fitout business, JP shares the real story behind his entrepreneurial journey, including the wins, the painful losses, and the lessons only experience can teach.

JP opens up about his philosophy on success, the three pillars he lives by, and why—despite being a successful business owner—he's never been a fan of superannuation. In classic Supermen style, Matt and Lionel challenge that mindset with a playful, Taco-ad-style twist... “Why not both?”

This episode is packed with insights for business owners, investors, and anyone trying to make sense of money, mindset, and meaning. You’ll hear about the fast-paced world of commercial fitouts, how JP recharges, and his no-nonsense advice for the next generation of investors.

💡 A must-listen for anyone who’s ever built something from the ground up, questioned the system, or searched for balance in a high-pressure world.

Get in contact with JP

Website: https://idfitouts.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/idfitouts/?hl=en

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/idfitouts.au

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-paul-saab-3b279965/

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