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What do angel investing, cosmonaut training, and funding a 10-year health community project have in common? Esther Dyson. Obviously. In our latest episode #164 of #TheShot of #DigitalHealth Therapy, Jim Joyce and I had the pleasure to catchup with Esther. We covered: 💸 Why she funded Wellville to rebuild social fabric in underserved communities (and what she really learned) 🧬 What 23andMe got right — and what it didn’t... 📕 Her next chapter: writing "Term Limits", a book about being human in the age of infinite AI 🧠 And why “making new mistakes” is a better life motto than “move fast and break things” Esther’s wisdom is as timeless as her curiosity — and we’re just glad she finally made it on #TheShot. 😅 Fun mentions as always: Matthew Holt Unity Stoakes Marina Borukhovich Rick Brush Peter H. Diamandis Linda Avey Stepan Pachikov Anne Wojcicki 🧭 Section Breakdown (Topics + Timestamps): Intro & Background Setup Esther joins & shares how this podcast started as a pandemic experiment. ⏱️ 00:00 – 04:00 Esther’s Life Journey in 3 Speeds From Oppenheimer roots to Forbes to cosmonaut training. ⏱️ 04:00 – 08:00 Cosmonaut Training & Health Discovery How a space detour saved her life. ⏱️ 08:00 – 12:00 Wellness Habits & Biohacking Wisdom Swimming, eating early, and NOT eating at cocktail parties. ⏱️ 12:00 – 14:00 Becoming an Angel Investor How a million-dollar challenge turned her into an investor. ⏱️ 14:00 – 17:00 Why She Started Wellville From judging the Healthcare XPrize to 10 years of social fabric repair. ⏱️ 18:00 – 25:00 Hard Truths About Systems & Poverty Trust, grants-as-drugs, and funding that's actually fair. ⏱️ 25:00 – 27:00 On Government, Prevention & Food Systems Sugar taxes, vaccines, and the real trends that matter. ⏱️ 27:00 – 29:00 23andMe’s Rise, Fall, and Lessons She got the education, not the return. ⏱️ 29:00 – 33:00 Term Limits & Being Fully Human Why we need constraints, not infinity — and why Pam the hygienist is the real hero. ⏱️ 35:00 – 44:00