Happy holidays, everyone!
I’m recording this intro a week early because I’m away right now, trying to enjoy a little downtime. Knowing we have an international audience, I hope that wherever you are, you’re finding joy in whatever you’re doing. And if you’re celebrating a holiday, may your celebrations be truly joyful.

Of course, the holidays can also bring their share of conflict—often around shopping and family gatherings. Both can feel pretty daunting. Fun fact (or maybe not so fun): there’s actually a Black Friday death and injury counter. Thankfully, this past year didn’t see much in the way of serious incidents. Still, the point remains—holiday shopping can feel like a full-contact sport, and it’s not just tough on your body, but on your mental health too.

So, what better time for an episode on conflict resolution?

This episode of Experience by Design continues our tradition of featuring Canadian guests—and introduces our first guest named Gary! The name Gary has taken a few knocks lately, so what better way to restore its honor than by bringing Garys together in the service of a good cause?

Our guest, Gary Furlong, has had a distinguished career in industrial relations and conflict resolution. He also collaborates with Josh Gordon—who was just on ExD—making this the first time we’ve had a repeat guest connection. Together, they co-authored The Sports Playbook: Building Teams that Outperform Year after Year. Gary also wrote the seminal text The Conflict Resolution Toolbox: Models and Maps for Analyzing, Diagnosing, and Resolving Conflict.

In this conversation, we explore concepts of justice, and why flexibility and consistency both matter—but in different ways. We discuss why process often matters more than outcome, and how sometimes people simply want to be heard, even if they don’t get everything they want. Gary explains that conflict is really just the manifestation of competing interests—a natural part of being human. But just because it’s inevitable doesn’t mean we can’t get better at managing it.

The key is adopting a problem-solving mindset—and that’s where a skilled mediator or conflict coach can make all the difference.

So, think of this episode of Experience by Design as our small attempt to create a little peace on Earth and goodwill toward others.

Gary Furlong at the Sports Conflict Institute: https://sportsconflict.org/team_member/gary-furlong/

Gary Furlong and Agree Inc: https://www.agreeinc.com/gary-furlong

Gary Furlong on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/garytfurlong

The most enjoyable part of doing the podcast is talking to a wide range of people who, regardless of their industry or role, share a common goal: making things better. At the end of the day, that’s what it’s all about. Sometimes we make things better by selling something people need. Other times, it’s by teaching them something new, creating an art installation that moves them, designing a workplace where they feel fulfilled, or building tools that make tasks easier. Whatever the approach, the mission remains the same—to make things better.

This simple goal can often get lost behind the different names our work has taken over time. Take “UX,” for example. It started as “Human Factors,” then became “Human-Computer Interaction,” and eventually evolved into “User Experience” and “Human-Centered Design.” Whatever the term, it all comes back to the same principle: improving lives. The more we keep that in mind, the better we understand what this work is truly about.

There’s a lot of talk today about creating a “Digital First” strategy. But perhaps we should think in terms of a Human First strategy—focusing on what people want, what they need, and how we can help close the gap. One of the great things about being a podcast host, educator, and thought leader in this space is providing the tools that help others create the tools people need.

My guest on this episode of Experience by Design understands what it means to elevate human potential and create “human-powered excellence.” Terry Peters discovered his passion for computers and coding through his high school football coach. Over his 20+ year career, he has helped organizations shape their digital strategies through user research, systems design, and user-focused experiences. His systems perspective emphasizes the importance of employee experience within technological and digital design—prioritizing their voices to create solutions that truly make things better.

We discuss Terry’s journey into management information systems and eventually user experience. We explore the challenges of requirements gathering, the role of AI as a supportive tool in human-centered design (rather than a replacement), and Terry’s work with Veracity, now part of RGP, where empathy is central to projects that impact employees’ work and lives.

Finally, we reflect on the ethos of user experience: improving people’s lives and making things better. By integrating diverse perspectives, we can build tools that help people achieve that goal.

Terry Peters on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/terry-peters-m-s-8198b61b/

RGP: https://rgp.com/

As listeners would have heard previously, I attended a FinTech event which got me thinking about financial literacy and financial experiences. I’ve started to write some thoughts down related to that which I am posting on my Substack. You can find that at https://garycdavid.substack.com/.

This post was about financial literacy as financial inclusion, and how knowledge is power especially in relation to financial decision making for oneself. I will admit this gets tricky because it can seem like the financial game at the highest levels may be for lack of a better term ‘rigged.’ Financial literacy may not go very far when the game is a ‘heads you win, tails I lose’ proposition. Nevertheless, it is important that people understand the nature of finance and financial decision making. FinTech in its variety of forms provides an opportunity to do this. There is a lot to explore and discuss in this realm, especially in relation to the creation of financial experiences.

My guest today on Experience by Design actually has a work background in financial services. Manny Fiteni worked in wealth management and financial planning. But that’s not why we talked. Rather, we talked about his work “The Mind Congruency Effect” and how it applies to leadership and more effective employee experiences. The book and his larger body of work explore how inner obstacles keep us from achieving greater potential, which is something that we can all relate to.

Beyond that, we discuss how this also stops managers from more effectively managing. I’ve often said, “If you call people managers, that’s what they’ll do.” We discuss how this is not necessarily the best role for managers. Employees need to have levels of autonomy in which they can have agency and some level of authority over their work. But it is not just employees acting alone, but together toward a shared goal and purpose. This is why managers need to act more like community organizers and facilitators which bring people together.

However, people in management roles are rarely if ever taught those kind of skills, and why they are important.

We talk about the traits of being a high-performing leader, and what an employee-centric manager looks like. We discuss how managing is different from leading, and how the people side is more important than the technical and compliance side. We also talk about how he is creating new training and development approaches to help better prepare managers to become leaders in a more employee-centric way. And we also talk about how he was working at a bank that was robbed, and how imagining that scenario prepared him on how best to respond. Like an athlete, if you rehearse something enough times, the mind creates patterns of how best to respond.

Manny Fiteni: https://mannyfiteni.com/

Manny Fiteni on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/manny-fiteni-b0173637/

“The Mind Congruency Effect”: https://www.amazon.com.au/Mind-Congruency-Effect-Transforming-Direction/dp/1763745406/