Steve and I discuss the World Series and how it played out. We discuss Aaron Judge and how he might be viewed using the lens of Mickey Mantle and 1963 World Series.

Steve still thinks intangibles cannot be measured, yet still cannot define an intangible.

Discussed: Kirk Gibson, Freddie Freeman, Walker Buehler, John Smoltz, Doyle Alexander, Atlanta Braves, Yankees, Dodgers, and others.

Steve and I discuss the requirements for something to be an iconic moment. I ponder why Kirk Gibson's homerun in the clinching game in 1984 is not as well known as his Game 1 homerun in 1989.

We use that example as a basis to discuss what makes a moment iconic. I ask if Freddie Freeman's grand slam will be iconic if the Dodgers lose (we now know they did not, so is it iconic?)

Others discussed, Tigers, Yankees, Aaron Judge, Mike Stanton, Juan Soto, Padres, Giants, Angels, Oakland A's, Canseco, McGwire, Rickey Henderson, Dennis Eckersley.

Steve postulates the biggest sports rivalry is Dodgers - Yankees outside of Lakers - Celtics.

I argue that Dodger fan can give a rip about the Yankees and they believe their hated rival is the Astros.

I explain to Steve that LA fandom in order is Lakers, USC, and then the Dodgers. He is not buying it.

We discuss the recency of Dodger rivals and if what Steve believes is true.

We give homage to the man that sparked Fernando-Mania.

Other names and topics mentioned: Juan Soto, Aaron Judge, Mike Stanton, Gerrit Cole, Carlos Rodon, Freddy Freeman, Shohei Otani, Mookie Betts, Los Angeles, New York