Where do you need to let your faith trump your fear?

In this episode, Jeff, Jeff, and Bob discuss:

• Growing up with an attitude of abundance and risk-taking.
• Trusting where the Lord is leading you.
• Intersecting faith and business.
• The value of mentorship in business, ministry, and marriage.
• Listening when the Holy Spirit speaks.

Key Takeaways:

• God has been faithful and will always be faithful. How are you living in a way that is faithful to Him?
• Love as Christ does - love the church, love God, love God’s people.
• Be willing to learn whatever God puts in your path - you don’t know where He is going to use those skills to serve His Kingdom.
• Forget what has happened behind you, surrender and strain toward God with an eternal perspective.

"Listen for His voice, and trust Him. Sometimes we have to go through such a hard spot to get there, to trust Him in a way that He wants us to trust Him." — Bob Wright

Episode References:

• Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis: https://www.amazon.com/Mere-Christianity-C-S-Lewis/dp/0060652926
• Generous Giving: https://generousgiving.org/
• Journey of Generosity Retreat (JOG): https://generousgiving.org/events/jog/

About Bob Wright: Bob Wright is managing member of Wright Multifamily LLC with 25 employees stewarding 11 affordable or workforce apartment communities totaling 970 units in Delaware, Pennsylvania, and Maryland. Wright Multifamily converts integrity, knowledge, and service into value for our residents, our professional team, and our financial partners. Our mission is to provide quality affordable housing opportunities for our residents. With best management practices we generate dependable income for our team, our investors, and our lenders.

Bob began his real estate career in 1974 working for a real estate appraiser while enrolled at the American University in Washington, D.C. In the late 1970's he also acted as a consultant to tenant organizations that were attempting to purchase their apartment buildings for conversion to cooperative or condominium ownership. By 1981 he opened his own firm specializing in the appraisal of multifamily properties and earned the designation of MAI with the Appraisal Institute in 1982.

Expansion of the geographic reach of the practice coincided with a move back to the Philadelphia area in 1984 after 12 years in the Washington, D.C. area. Over 2500 multi-family appraisal assignments were performed until he retired in 2016 in order to devote more time to owning and managing a growing portfolio of multifamily properties.

Connect with Bob Wright:

Website: https://www.wrightmultifamily.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-wright-a1a96315/

Connect with Jeff Thomas:

Website: https://www.arkosglobal.com/

Podcast: https://www.generousbusinessowner.com/

Book: https://www.arkosglobal.com/trading-up

Email: jeff.thomas@arkosglobal.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/ArkosGlobalAdv

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/arkosglobal/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/arkosglobaladvisors

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arkosglobaladvisors/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLUYpPwkHH7JrP6PrbHeBxw

What is your one right next step?

In this episode, Jeff, Jeff, and Jeanna discuss:

• Lessons on humility and overcoming pride.
• Meeting the Lord through business.
• Transitioning from soaking in the Spirit to seeking the Lord.
• Building a unified team even among diverse people.
• Living intentionally and honoring legacy.

Key Takeaways:

• People need to have a safe place. They need connection and real community in every aspect of their lives.
• Giving and generosity can begin with one person. It will grow and multiply from even one spark.
• God gives and He takes away - it is all His to begin with. Generously steward what He has given you.
• Love can happen in the middle of business - for employees, trade partners, customers, and more.

"That is how you will know that God's Kingdom is bigger and better than yours - He will do it in real ways if you'll surrender." — Jeanna Roach

Episode References:

• Kingdom at Work: https://kingdomatwork.com/

About Jeanna Roach: Jeanna Roach grew up in Wichita Falls, Texas before graduating from Texas Tech University and beginning her career in public relations/marketing. She joined Betenbough Homes in 2006 and has led various roles emphasizing her strategic lens for sales and marketing. In December 2023, Jeanna was appointed by Rick Betenbough as CEO of Betenbough Companies. Jeanna leads the Board of Directors and specializes in the growth and development of new enterprises such as an event center, a café and title company. She is a champion of the Betenbough Companies culture and defends it daily. Jeanna and her husband, Andrew, have three children, Olivia, Liam and Collin, and spend their time travelling, shooting hoops and watching volleyball.

Connect with Jeanna Roach:

Website: https://www.betenbough.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeannaroach

Connect with Jeff Thomas:

Website: https://www.arkosglobal.com/

Podcast: https://www.generousbusinessowner.com/

Book: https://www.arkosglobal.com/trading-up

Email: jeff.thomas@arkosglobal.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/ArkosGlobalAdv

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/arkosglobal/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/arkosglobaladvisors

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arkosglobaladvisors/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLUYpPwkHH7JrP6PrbHeBxw

How are you using your business as a vehicle for Kingdom impact?

In this episode, Jeff, Jeff, and Mike discuss:

• Successfully bridging the worlds between tech, business, and faith.
• Building the Kingdom and a burned-down mansion.
• Having a faith walk that includes God in your business.
• Returning to the true and important messages in the world of the wrong messages on social media.

Key Takeaways:

• Follow the favor. Where do you see success in your life? Serve God and His Kingdom there.
• The primary way that God designed impact in the world was not through organized religion but through business and entrepreneurship.
• The call to ministry does not need to be within the four walls of a church or in a non-profit organization.
• Our activities are the outward, visible proof of our faith in Jesus.

"If you can get to a place where you see the business as a vehicle for Kingdom impact, and then allow the business to be used for Kingdom impact, which means you're going to make less money because Jesus is going to make more, what actually happens is that's when you live your best life." — Mike Thakur

Episode References:

• Burned Down Mansion Zillow: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5603-Winslow-Rd-LOT-107-Franklin-TN-37064/2054800169_zpid/

About Mike Thakur: Mike Thakur is an award-winning CEO, adventurous entrepreneur, and content creator who’s built a career at the intersection of business, purpose, and impact.

From co-founding an internet company in the UK before Google was a household name, to leading $100 million sales teams and running operations for the secret service for billionaires, his journey is marked by bold decisions and innovative thinking.

Now based in Tennessee, after nearly 20 years in Texas, Mike is passionate about blending business and tech to create meaningful change in communities.

He’s one of Houston’s ‘Most Admired CEOs,’ a two-time Guinness World Record participant, and author of ‘Mike Drop’, where he shows how entrepreneurship can be a powerful tool for making a real difference.

Whether it’s a keynote talk or a podcast conversation, Mike offers inspiring stories, practical insights, and a clear vision for how purpose-driven business can change lives.

Connect with Mike Thakur:

Website: https://www.mikethakur.com/

Email: info@mikethakur.com

Book: Mike Drop: https://www.mikethakur.com/mike-drop-book

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/realmikethakur

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@realmikethakur

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikethakur/

The Mike Thakur Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/2s1Pu9y2VAl7GSvHUPFzCL

Connect with Jeff Thomas:

Website: https://www.arkosglobal.com/

Podcast: https://www.generousbusinessowner.com/

Book: https://www.arkosglobal.com/trading-up

Email: jeff.thomas@arkosglobal.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/ArkosGlobalAdv

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/arkosglobal/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/arkosglobaladvisors

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arkosglobaladvisors/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLUYpPwkHH7JrP6PrbHeBxw

Have you started thinking about your business or ministry transition?

In this episode, Jeff, Jeff, and Steve discuss:

• How Steve found Jesus with his wife at 21, turning his life around in the process.
• Losing focus in college and then finding success with a business career in marketing, which has become his ministry career.
• Building a cushion of wealth and being deliberate about both saving and giving.
• Combining business and ministry for successful giving.
• The five principles to follow for a successful succession.

Key Takeaways:

• If you allow God to move through you and you open the door to allow Him in, you’ll be amazed at what can happen in your life.
• Praying parents, don’t give up. God hears your prayers.
• Boards need to involve senior staff in selecting a new CEO. They don’t have enough information on their own.
• Transitions of any kind should happen with respect for all parties, humility, and clear, continuous communication. Transitions are hard, it is an emotionally charged time and requires a lot of learning on both sides.

"That possibility of giving away part or all of your company does require you to build wealth on the side, and so you need to be doing that at the same time. I was late in getting started on that, and so there's nothing wrong with building a cushion of wealth, or potential retirement, or whatever might happen." — Steve Woodworth

Episode References:

• Born Again by Charles W Colson: https://www.amazon.com/Born-Again-Charles-W-Colson/dp/0800794591

About Steve Woodworth: With over forty years devoted to advancing Christian organizations, Steve Woodworth brings a wealth of expertise in marketing, management, and organizational development. He steered World Vision’s direct marketing and donor services through a decade of annual double-digit growth in the 1980s and 1990s. Since joining Masterworks in 1992, Steve has been instrumental in establishing it as the premier marketing agency dedicated to aiding hundreds of Christian organizations in achieving their mission. Steve also gives back as a volunteer on boards, as a convener of industry leaders, and continues to lead the Communications Working Group for The Lausanne Movement.

Connect with Steve Woodworth:

Website: https://www.masterworks.agency/

Book: Lost in Transition: https://www.masterworks.agency/succession

Connect with Jeff Thomas:

Website: https://www.arkosglobal.com/

Podcast: https://www.generousbusinessowner.com/

Book: https://www.arkosglobal.com/trading-up

Email: jeff.thomas@arkosglobal.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/ArkosGlobalAdv

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/arkosglobal/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/arkosglobaladvisors

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arkosglobaladvisors/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLUYpPwkHH7JrP6PrbHeBxw

Are you looking for a greater purpose that will allow your assets to live on beyond you?

In this episode, Jeff, Tim, and Pete discuss:

• What a purpose trust is and how it may benefit your generosity beyond your lifetime.
• How Farmer’s Organic Market and Patagonia are leading the way with purpose trusts.
• Comparing a traditional trust with a perpetual purpose trust.
• Minimizing conflict and maximizing impact.

Key Takeaways:

• Every trust must have a beneficiary. Until a few years ago, that had to be a person, pet, or cemetery plot. Now, there is a 4th beneficiary - a purpose.
• Traditional trusts can be revocable or non-revocable. Perpetual purpose trusts are non-revocable.
• Purpose trusts may be new to the US but have been functioning in Europe for much longer.
• There are many ways to negotiate ownership and shares with a trust, organization, or family. These purpose trusts can be structured in many ways to help promote your chosen purpose.

"As long as you have a purpose, you can begin putting assets into the trust. These assets that are there need to promote the purpose." — Pete Ochs

About Pete Ochs: Pete Ochs is an author, investor, entrepreneur, and chief steward of Capital III and Enterprise Stewardship: two companies dedicated to being a catalyst for flourishing. Pete’s passion in life is to educate, equip, and empower business leaders worldwide to live for something greater than themselves by using their business platform to impact the world for Christ. To further this end, Pete has written two books, High Impact LIFE and High Impact Business, providing personal and business transformation frameworks. More information can be found at enterprisestewardship.com.

Connect with Pete Ochs:

Website: https://www.enterprisestewardship.com/

Book: https://www.enterprisestewardship.com/high-impact-life

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@enterprisestewardship3695

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pete-ochs/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/EStewardship3

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/EnterpriseStewardship/

Connect with Jeff Thomas:

Website: https://www.arkosglobal.com/

Podcast: https://www.generousbusinessowner.com/

Book: https://www.arkosglobal.com/trading-up

Email: jeff.thomas@arkosglobal.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/ArkosGlobalAdv

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/arkosglobal/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/arkosglobaladvisors

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arkosglobaladvisors/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLUYpPwkHH7JrP6PrbHeBxw

What is God leading you to do?

In this episode, Jeff and Scott discuss:

• Obedience over outcome.
• Generosity doesn’t happen organically.
• Blessings of Christian education.
• Creating a personal board of directors.

Key Takeaways:

• God’s plan is different than yours. Ultimately, it is better than you could know.
• God calls us to show up, no matter the outcome. The outcome has nothing to do with you, even when you bring your A-game every day.
• Everybody has a broader network than they think they do.
• People are almost always willing to give of themselves when asked.

"My job is to do my best work always, to show up and bring a Christ-centered, Kingdom-centered focus to the workplace, to my co-workers, to my partners, and do the best I possibly can. And He will ordain that outcome, and I will be the beneficiary one way or the other." — Scott Pomeroy

About Scott Pomeroy: Scott Pomeroy is the Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of XTI Aerospace. Scott brings over 35 years of executive experience to XTI. He previously served as the CFO of Dex Media, overseeing equity and debt capital raises of more than $10 billion, and was CEO and founder of Local Insight Media. He also co-founded Gen3 Financial Services, a boutique merchant bank providing capital raising and business advisory services to clients in a variety of industries including aerospace. He has served on several boards, including the Board of Directors of AVX Aircraft Company since 2009, a U.S. military defense contractor and a leading-edge aviation research and engineering company with particular expertise in vertical takeoff and landing (VTOL) aircraft and unmanned aircraft development. Scott began his career at KPMG Peat Marwick. He has a BBA in Accounting and is a Certified Public Accountant.

Connect with Scott Pomeroy:

Website: https://xtiaerospace.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottpomeroy/

Company LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/xti-aerospace

Twitter: https://x.com/XTIAerospace

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/XTI-Aerospace-100095440081309/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/xtiaerospace/

Connect with Jeff Thomas:

Website: https://www.arkosglobal.com/

Podcast: https://www.generousbusinessowner.com/

Book: https://www.arkosglobal.com/trading-up

Email: jeff.thomas@arkosglobal.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/ArkosGlobalAdv

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/arkosglobal/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/arkosglobaladvisors

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arkosglobaladvisors/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLUYpPwkHH7JrP6PrbHeBxw

What are you willing to sacrifice or concede for the goal of healthy family dynamics?

In this episode, Jeff, Jeff, and Josh discuss:

• Your kids are watching what you say, what you do, what you proclaim, and how those align.
• Learning from our peers while in community.
• Encouraging vulnerability.
• Finding a shared common passion.

Key Takeaways:

• The Gathering gives opportunities for kids and adults, alike, to connect with non-profit leaders and learn and make a difference with important services and programs.
• There are things that you are going to be assigned to do, have you made space to allow the next generation to carry forth something bigger than you?
• We don’t want to forget what is tried, true, and proven to work. But we also don’t want to forget to look at what might be, what ought to be, and what is coming next.
• Stewardship with family should be amazing and life-affirming. It should show you the goodness of God.

"Sometimes there are generational differences in what strikes our hearts as worthy of God's resources - worthy of our attention, worthy of our family’s capital - and some of these, you can frame it as disagreements. You can also frame it as a search for what you find as a shared common passion." — Josh Kwan

About Josh Kwan: Josh Kwan is the President of The Gathering, a learning community of philanthropists motivated by their Christian faith to give humbly and steward wisely all the resources God has entrusted to their care. Previously, he was a Co-Founder and Partner at Praxis, a creative engine for redemptive entrepreneurship whose mission is to build ventures, foster community, and create content for equipping Christian innovators, founders, and funders.

Josh served as the Director of International Giving for the David Weekley Family Foundation, where he divided his time between conducting due diligence on innovative social enterprises and helping portfolio organizations scale their impact. He worked as a journalist and was published in The San Jose Mercury News, The Wall Street Journal, Newsweek, and Stanford Social Innovation Review. He also co-founded Abide, a mobile app for encouraging and enlivening the practice of prayer and meditation. He has an AB from Harvard College and an MBA from Northwestern’s Kellogg School of Management. He lives with his family near San Francisco.

Connect with Josh Kwan:

Website: https://www.thegathering.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshkwan/

Connect with Jeff Thomas:

Website: https://www.arkosglobal.com/

Podcast: https://www.generousbusinessowner.com/

Book: https://www.arkosglobal.com/trading-up

Email: jeff.thomas@arkosglobal.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/ArkosGlobalAdv

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/arkosglobal/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/arkosglobaladvisors

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arkosglobaladvisors/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLUYpPwkHH7JrP6PrbHeBxw

Do you understand your relationship with God, with money, and with generosity?

In this episode, Jeff and Jamie discuss:

• Understanding what it means to have a true relationship with Jesus Christ at every level of life.
• Recognizing God’s gift within to serve and bless others.
• Solving a problem for somebody versus having an impact on their change story.
• Are we looking for a reason to give or a reason to not give?

Key Takeaways:

• Don’t underestimate the power of a personal invitation. As you feel the tug to do so, you may be surprised at who accepts.
• As long as they are breathing, people need encouragement.
• It is about more than just showing up. It is about what it takes to show up in the first place.
• If you are going to serve on a board, understand if you are there for the right reasons. You need to want to be there. Organizations can only go as high as the board allows.

"I don't want to be successful, I want to be significant. I want to have a legacy that's built around whether I actually added value to someone. I get lots of awards and things like that, and it's wonderful and humbling that I get recognized at times, but at the end of the day, it doesn't matter if I haven't added value to a person." — Jamie Levy

Episode References:

• Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Robert Pirsig
• Giving for Impact by Jamie Levy

About Jamie Levy: Jamie D. Levy is the Founder and Chief Vision Officer of JDLevy & Associates, founding partner of FiscAlign accounting and financial services and founder of Discover Philanthropy. Jamie is also a faculty member at Indiana University, where he teaches in the graduate and professional programs in not-for-profit management and development through the IU Lilly School of Philanthropy, The Fund Raising School, and O'Neil School of Public and Environmental Affairs. Additionally, Jamie has been recognized as a distinguished alum and appointed to the Indiana University O'Neil School of Public and Environmental Affairs Distinguished Alumni Council, a significant honor given to few alums. Jamie is a published author/writer and speaker. He has trained over 50,000 professionals from some 30 countries through his teaching and consulting. He has become recognized as an international expert in nonprofit organizational development and social impact. Jamie also serves on the product design and industry thought leader team at Bloomerang. He is an officially designated U.S. Department of Labor nonprofit industry field expert and was appointed to the Indiana University O'Neill School of Public and Environmental Affairs Distinguished Alumni Council and Alumni Board.

Connect with Jamie Levy:

Website: https://jdlevyassociates.com/

Website: https://www.discoverphilanthropy.com/

Website: https://www.fiscalign.net/

Connect with Jeff Thomas:

Website: https://www.arkosglobal.com/

Podcast: https://www.generousbusinessowner.com/

Book: https://www.arkosglobal.com/trading-up

Email: jeff.thomas@arkosglobal.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/ArkosGlobalAdv

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/arkosglobal/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/arkosglobaladvisors

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arkosglobaladvisors/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLUYpPwkHH7JrP6PrbHeBxw