Guests featured in this episode:Keosha Bond, M.D., Assistant Medical Professor, City University of New York School of MedicineTori Cooper, Director of Community Engagement for the Trans Justice Initiative, Human Rights CampaignLatesha Elopre, M.D., Associate Professor, Division of Infectious Diseases, University of Alabama at BirminghamModerator: Alexandra Walker, Director of Digital Communications, National Association of Community Health CentersAlexandra:. Welcome to Health Centers on the Frontlines, the podcast of the National Association of Community Health Centers. Today is the third and last in a three-episode series we've been doing about an epidemic that the nation's health centers have been battling for decades: HIV and AIDS. PrEP access and use remain unequal in the United States, with women overall accessing it at a fraction of the rates of men. Meanwhile, one in five new HIV cases annually occurs in women. The overwhelming majority of Black women. Transgender women specifically, are at an even greater risk for HIV acquisition and oftentimes lack access to competent care to access primary care. When we think about health centers and all the work that is done with Black communities, we cannot leave HIV prevention and care for Black women out of the conversation.To discuss today, we are joined by a panel of experts, Dr. Keosha Bond, Assistant Medical Professor at the City College of New York. Tori Cooper, Director of Community Engagement for the Trans Justice Initiative at Human Rights Campaign, and Dr. Latesha Elopre, Associate Professor in the Division of Infectious Diseases at the University of Alabama at Birmingham.We start this conversation about ways that health centers can improve the engagement of Black cisgender and transgender women in HIV testing, prevention, and care. So if we could start with you, Latesha, how can we improve messaging about HIV prevention and care to improve acceptance of services among all Black women?Latesha: Thank you. So, my name's Latesha and my pronouns are she and her, and I am really excited to be able to talk about this topic. I think that when we’re talking about access and we’re talking about it for specific populations, we have to do it in the framing and the understanding that access is not equitable to begin with. So number one, there is a system-level barrier in regards to who's able to receive the services. So when we’re understanding why, we’re seeing inequalities in regards to certain geographic locations. We're talking about things like being in a non-Medicaid expansion state, having poor public transit opportunities available to you where you live, being impoverished, and being a victim of systemic racism, those are all barriers that communities of color face a lot of times on a day-to-day basis that make access difficult.But when we're talking about specifically, how do we improve messaging and understanding around PrEP and HIV testing and prevention, I think that we have to do it from a framework where we're not talking about risk, but we're talking about health. And that's something that we haven't been doing well in regards to public health in general. So I've been very excited, I think, where a lot of conversations have been moving and shifting, because right now if you were to ask many people in America right now, do you think you're at risk for HIV? Should you be tested? They would say no. And based on how we've defined risk from a public health standpoint, you know, the answer actually would be not based on CDC guidelines and recommendations, a lot of times would put people, quote-unquote, at risk is nothing more than where you live. And that's social determinants of health that are currently impacting you.So, I think we just have to change our messaging, be more sex-positive, be more health-focused and oriented, more talking about HIV testing, PrEP, and messaging.Alexandra: Thank you. And turning to you, Tori, thank you for joining us. What are some of the things that you believe health centers can do to improve engagement of Black, cisgender, and transgender women, HIV testing and prevention, like PrEP? Tori: Well, thank you for having me. My name is Tori Cooper and my pronouns are she and her. And I'm a Black trans woman. So I speak on behalf of a lot of women who have similar backgrounds as I do. We're Black, we're transgender, we live in the South. One of the things really kind of going along with what we just heard, Black women, regardless of how you got to your Black woman, how you got to your womanhood, we often put others' needs ahead of ours. We trust people, perhaps, who don't deserve our trust, and yet we're distrustful of medical systems. And so one of the programs I'm involved with is changing Risks to Reasons (From Risk to Reasons)where we're actually helping Black women to reframe what risk is in terms of reasons.When we think about risk for HIV, we really are putting the responsibility, the power in someone ...
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