Hey White Women

著者： Daniella Mestyanek Young
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  • In this insightful and candid conversation, Daniella Mestyanek Young, a scholar of cults, extreme groups, and extremely leadership, joins Rebecca, known as White Woman Whisperer on TikTok and Patreon, to delve into their experiences and revelations about cult dynamics, white supremacy, and systemic racism. Daniella, who grew up in the notorious Children of God cult and later served in the military, shares her journey of understanding and deconstructing white supremacy as a pervasive cult. Rebecca, a Black Jewish woman, discusses her own realizations about systemic racism and the similarities between white supremacy and cult behavior. Together, they explore the complexities of deprogramming from these ingrained systems, the importance of acknowledging privilege, and the power of vulnerability in fostering genuine understanding and change. This dialogue sheds light on the personal and societal challenges of breaking free from cult-like ideologies and the ongoing work required to dismantle oppressive systems.
    2024
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  • Episode 9 | Language of White Supremacy

    Episode 9 | Language of White Supremacy
    2024/09/17

    In this conversation, Daniella and Rebecca explore the intersections of cult dynamics, whiteness, and gender, discussing how personal experiences shape broader societal issues. They delve into the importance of language, the exit costs of leaving cults, and the power of storytelling. The discussion emphasizes the need for community support, the role of silence in conversations, and the challenges of navigating identity and intersectionality. They also reflect on the impact of personal narratives on societal change and the importance of inclusivity and representation in various spaces.

    Books:

    Caste by Isabel Wilkerson

    Connect with Rebecca at:

    Website

    Patreon

    TikTok

    Connect with Daniella at:

    Daniella's Patreon

    TikTok

    Instagram

    Website

    Youtube

    Uncultured by Daniella Mestyanek Young

    • From Bookshop.org

    • Autographed

    • UnAMERICAN Videobook

    Takeaways

    • Cults often use language to control and manipulate individuals.
    • Personal hobbies can intersect with political discussions.
    • Gender dynamics affect everyday interactions and experiences.
    • Leaving a cult involves significant emotional and social costs.
    • Storytelling is a powerful tool for understanding and healing.
    • Silence can be both a protective and a harmful force in conversations.
    • Objectivity in data can be misleading; personal narratives matter.
    • Community support is crucial for personal empowerment.
    • Inclusivity requires active participation and acknowledgment of diverse voices.
    • Reimagining life beyond traditional structures can lead to personal freedom.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction and Background
    03:39 Challenges Faced by Women
    06:44 The Language of White Supremacy
    12:45 The High Costs of Leaving Cults
    26:18 Silencing and Performative Regulation
    37:44 The Power of Community and Inclusivity
    41:34 Challenges and Risks of Speaking Out
    47:41 White Women's Role in Amplifying Marginalized Voices
    52:06 Learning from Mistakes and Acknowledging Growth
    57:23 The Power of Language and Storytelling
    01:03:13 Challenging Societal Norms and Expectations
    01:07:27 Prioritizing Self-Care and Personal Growth
    01:12:02 Empowering Individuals to Create Change
    01:14:56 Recognizing the Limitations of Objectivity
    01:17:22 Finding Your Own Path and Creating Your Own Rules

    Produced by Haley Phillips
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    1 時間 18 分
  • Episode 8 | White Supremacy in the Cult of Corporate America

    Episode 8 | White Supremacy in the Cult of Corporate America
    2024/09/10

    The conversation explores the themes of color, PowerPoint culture, repetitiveness of work, cult-like aspects of organizations, the need for individuality, the impact of white supremacy, and the power of democratized knowledge. In this conversation, Rebecca and Daniella discuss the loaded language around the word 'racist' and the fragility and volatility that white people often exhibit when confronted with accusations of racism. They emphasize the importance of deconstructing belief systems and actively working to dismantle white supremacy. They also explore the concept of traumalages, the blending of personal traumas and privileges that shape individual perspectives and abilities. The conversation touches on the need to acknowledge and address the impacts of systems of power, the role of language in maintaining control, and the necessity of storytelling and sharing human experiences to effect change.

    Connect with Rebecca at:

    Website

    Patreon

    TikTok

    Connect with Daniella at:

    Daniella's Patreon

    TikTok

    Instagram

    Website

    Youtube

    Uncultured by Daniella Mestyanek Young

    • From Bookshop.org

    • Autographed

    • UnAMERICAN Videobook

    Takeaways

    • Color can be a contentious issue in different contexts, such as the military and personal preferences.
    • PowerPoint culture in organizations can be excessive and repetitive, leading to a cult-like environment.
    • The repetitiveness of work and the pressure to conform can be draining and hinder individuality.
    • White supremacy and its influence on systems and organizations can limit diversity and perpetuate harmful practices.
    • The democratization of knowledge through platforms like TikTok challenges traditional power structures and allows for diverse voices to be heard. The word 'racist' carries a heavy and loaded connotation, particularly for white people, who often exhibit fragility and volatility when confronted with accusations of racism.
    • Deconstructing belief systems and actively working to dismantle white supremacy is a necessary and ongoing process.
    • Traumalages, the blending of personal traumas and privileges, shape individual perspectives and abilities, and acknowledging and addressing the impacts of systems of power is crucial.
    • Language plays a significant role in maintaining control, and storytelling and sharing human experiences are powerful tools for effecting change.

    Sound Bites

    "Don't you dare put pink on a slide."
    "How American to hand over all of our communication to this."
    "The corporate hatred of individuality"
    "There's this heaviness only with white people, because it's interesting. I thought about like black people rarely will call someone racist, like in everyday life."
    "White people always hear you are racist and then they flip a switch. I call it like more instead of fragility, I see it more as volatility."
    "I very organically have a much more diverse following. And I was like, looking at that, and I was like, hey, look at that. Like, that means I've done some good work in the past two years."

    Chapters

    00:00 Color and Conformity
    02:06 PowerPoint Culture and Cult-Like Aspects
    03:33 The Impact of Work and Motivation
    04:43 The Democratization of Knowledge and Power Structures
    08:52 Standardized Interviews and Expertise
    11:44 Whiteness and White Supremacy in Organizations
    41:43 Deconstructing Belief Systems
    42:38 Confronting Toxic Systems and Acknowledging Privilege
    53:45 The Power of Storytelling and Language
    01:05:55 Inclusion and Exclusion: The Role of Language
    01:10:20 Accepting and Considering Different Perspectives
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    1 時間 17 分
  • Episode 7 | The Undergarments of Control

    Episode 7 | The Undergarments of Control
    2024/09/03
    The conversation explores the topic of underwear and its role in control and oppression. It delves into the societal expectations and policing of women's bodies, the arbitrary nature of professionalism, and the intersection of underwear with race and gender. The discussion also touches on the history of underwear, the influence of capitalism and consumerism, and the connection between underwear and abuse in cults. Overall, the conversation highlights the ways in which underwear is used as a tool for control and the need to challenge societal norms and expectations. The conversation explores various topics related to identity, race, and gender. It touches on issues such as colorism, body image, breastfeeding in public, and the challenges faced by women in the military. The speakers discuss the infantilization and sexualization of women, the pressure to conform to societal expectations, and the importance of understanding and acknowledging one's own privilege. They also highlight the need for white women to listen and learn from marginalized communities, rather than trying to prove their goodness or uniqueness. In this final part of the conversation, Rebecca and Daniella discuss the insidious nature of white supremacy and the need for white people to trust Black people's awareness of racism. They also explore the importance of questioning societal norms and expectations, such as appearance control and underwear requirements. They emphasize the need for white people to deconstruct white supremacy and opt out of the game, leading to true freedom, joy, and friendship. Connect with Rebecca at: Website Patreon TikTok Connect with Daniella at: Daniella's Patreon TikTok Instagram Website Youtube Uncultured by Daniella Mestyanek Young From Bookshop.org Autographed UnAMERICAN Videobook Takeaways Underwear is often used as a tool for control and oppression, with societal expectations and policing of women's bodies.The concept of professionalism is arbitrary and can be used to marginalize and exclude certain individuals.The history of underwear reveals the influence of capitalism and consumerism, as well as the infantilization of sexuality in society. Underwear can be connected to abuse in cults, where it is used as a means of control and surveillance.Challenging societal norms and expectations around underwear is important for promoting body autonomy and dismantling oppressive systems. Colorism and body image issues are prevalent in society, leading to the infantilization and sexualization of women.Breastfeeding in public is still stigmatized, despite laws protecting a woman's right to do so.Women in the military face challenges related to uniform fit, gender expectations, and stereotypes.White women should listen and learn from marginalized communities, rather than trying to prove their goodness or uniqueness. White people need to trust Black people's awareness of racism and understand that they know more about racism than white people do.Questioning societal norms and expectations, such as appearance control and underwear requirements, is essential in deconstructing white supremacy.White people should opt out of the game of white supremacy and embrace true freedom, joy, and community.Deconstructing white supremacy takes time and ongoing work, and it is a continuous process of learning and unlearning.The goal is not to be obsessed as white people, but to challenge and dismantle white supremacy for a more equitable society. Sound Bites "The history of colonization is just white men going around the world and telling brown and black women to cover up their boobs." "Professionalism is not a real thing, right? Like right now, I'm here with a straight, like remains of a blowout, Rebecca has natural hair. Your hair is not more professional than my hair." "I know Victoria's Secret is like a dude made her up. But like how much have we all suffered because of that?" "That's another part that makes it more racist and more infantilized." "The death of these cults is the knowledge of them." "Every state in America, you are allowed to breastfeed your child in public." "You have to also trust black people's awareness of you more than your understanding of where you are and how they're perceived." "The way that you go make black friends is doing the work to come out of the cult of white supremacy." "We have been told for our entire culture that black men are the most likely to hurt us." Chapters 00:00 Introduction: Moving Away from Bras and Pantyhose 06:39 The Control and Policing of Women's Bodies Through Underwear 10:29 The Discomfort and Privilege of Wearing Bras 13:33 Appearance Control and White Supremacy 17:38 The Arbitrary Nature of Professionalism 21:31 Underwear as a Tool of Control: Historical and Cultural Perspectives 25:31 Consumerism and Societal Expectations 30:40 Colorism, Body Image, and the Infantilization of Women 32:37 The Stigma of Breastfeeding in Public 36:41 The Need to...
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    1 時間 31 分

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In this insightful and candid conversation, Daniella Mestyanek Young, a scholar of cults, extreme groups, and extremely leadership, joins Rebecca, known as White Woman Whisperer on TikTok and Patreon, to delve into their experiences and revelations about cult dynamics, white supremacy, and systemic racism. Daniella, who grew up in the notorious Children of God cult and later served in the military, shares her journey of understanding and deconstructing white supremacy as a pervasive cult. Rebecca, a Black Jewish woman, discusses her own realizations about systemic racism and the similarities between white supremacy and cult behavior. Together, they explore the complexities of deprogramming from these ingrained systems, the importance of acknowledging privilege, and the power of vulnerability in fostering genuine understanding and change. This dialogue sheds light on the personal and societal challenges of breaking free from cult-like ideologies and the ongoing work required to dismantle oppressive systems.
2024
哲学 社会科学
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