Ever felt like cybersecurity is always the team that says “no” to everything?

Well, it’s time to change that narrative.

In this episode of Cyber After Hours—How to Prevent Security From Becoming the "Department of No"—we start off sharing laughs about New York snowstorms and the funny ways different cultures react to weather surprises.

But quickly, the discussion dives deeper, exploring Simon Sinek’s powerful concept of playing the “infinite game” rather than getting stuck on short-term wins.

Through candid personal stories, Paul and Evan tackle why security teams often get painted as the gatekeepers of “no.”

They share how shifting the focus from risk avoidance to storytelling and context can make cybersecurity a business enabler instead of a blocker.

We unpack real-world strategies for transforming security teams from risk-averse gatekeepers into innovative partners who say “yes”—strategically, of course!

This episode is all about balancing caution with courage, technical skills with empathy, and leadership with collaboration.

Whether you’re deep in the cybersecurity trenches or simply curious about building stronger, more positive security cultures, this episode offers humor, practical insights, and a fresh perspective on how to embrace the art of saying “yes.”

Tune in, grab your favorite beverage, and join us for another engaging round at Cyber After Hours—because cybersecurity is best served with a side of humanity.

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Evan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanmorgan/

Paul: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pm01/