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You know those moments in motherhood when you’re drowning in laundry, prepping dinner with a baby on your hip, and then your partner texts, “I’m surprised you didn’t get blueberries”? Yeah—same. That was Eve Rodsky’s breaking point too, and it sparked a movement that’s now transformed over a million households (and counting).

In this episode, we sit down with the incredible Eve Rodsky—New York Times bestselling author of Fair Play and Unicorn Space, founder of the Fair Play Institute. We get real about what invisible labor really means, why so many of us feel rage instead of joy in early parenting, and how Eve’s system has saved not just marriages—but identities. Whether you’ve heard of Fair Play or not, this conversation is packed with eye-opening truths and tangible shifts that can radically improve your partnership, your parenting, and your peace of mind.

🕒 TIMELINE SUMMARY:

[1:00] - Eve’s deeply personal story of growing up as a “parental child” in a single-parent home. [10:37] - The magic of realizing your labor isn’t a “magical vagina”—and why that matters.[13:40] - Is it even possible for two parents to have full-time careers in today’s system?[17:30] - The “magic cards” in Fair Play—and why they carry emotional weight we often dismiss.[49:09] - Why traditional marriages are increasingly unstable (and what actually leads to stronger ones).[51:00] - Eve’s single most important piece of advice to any new parent—hint: wear your own name.

🔗 LINKS & RESOURCES

Learn about Even and the episode on our website.

Fair Play by Eve Rodsky

Watch the Fair Play Documentary on Hulu Directed by Jennifer Siebel Newsom (you may know her as Gavin Newsom's wife)

Instagram: @fairplaylife & @everodsky

Unicorn Space: Reclaim Your Creative Life in a Too-Busy World
The Fair Play Deck (Card Game)

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