We're back with the second PSP episode, and to say this is a must-listen is an understatement...

From the Marquis de Sade to Yoko Ono, from Jordan in London 1976 to Bertolt Brecht’s Pirate Jenny in Berlin 1928, from the art of smashing an instrument to play vs. work—Jessica Schwartz and Paul Hollins met up with Marie Arleth Skov to talk all things punk and art history. We talked about the rejection of the male genius and the negation of the notion of progress, about how sometimes in punk, the false is true, and the surreal is real, about the isolation of West Berlin, and TOO MUCH FUTURE in the GDR. And just a little bit about Ani f*cking DiFranco.

About Our Guest

Dr. Marie Arleth Skov is a Danish art historian who lives in Berlin. She has written numerous articles and book chapters about punk and art ~ and about punk and art history, especially the connections to Dada and surrealism. She has also written a book called PUNK ART HISTORY: Artworks from the European No Future Generation, which was published by Intellect Books in 2023. Currently, she is researching for a large exhibition about the topic of the body in punk, which is set to open at ARoS art museum in Denmark in 2026.

For More Information

Intellect Books | Punk Art History - Artworks from the European No Future Generation, By Marie Arleth Skov

Research project on the body in punk culture to form basis of a new ARoS exhibition

Marie Arleth Skov — Punk Scholars Network

Punk Art History Playlist - playlist by MAS | Spotify

Musical Examples

(excerpted from “Punk Art History Playlist”)

• “Midsummer New York.” Yoko Ono. Source: Secretly Canadian / Chimera Music
• “L'Anarchie Pour Le UK.” Performed by Louis Brennon, Sex Pistols. Written by Glen Matlock, John Lydon, Paul Cook, Stephen Philip Jones. Produced by Dave Goodman. Source: UMC (Universal Music Catalogue).
• “Die Dreigroschenoper: Akt II, Die Seeräuber-Jenny oder Träume eines Küchenmädchens” ("Meine Herren, heute sehen Sie mich Gläser abwaschen") Performed by Lotte Lenya, Wilhelm Brückner-Rüggeberg, Wolfgang Neuss. Written by Bertolt Brecht, Kurt Weill. Source: Sony Classical

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The PSP theme music is excerpted from “Crows” by Watch You Drown. All rights reserved. Season 1, Episode 2 was recorded on June 10, 2024 on Zoom with participants in Germany, the UK, and the US. Paul Hollins and Jessica Schwartz co-hosted and co-produced this episode. Jessica Schwartz edited the audio. Jessica Schwartz and Paul Hollins edited the transcript.

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