I’ve always been curious to know why people are the way they are. After reading Bill’s memoir, Source Code, it felt more like peeling back layers than simply asking questions. Part 2 of our chat, I got to know him in a way I haven’t before.

In this episode of People by WTF, Bill talks about the drive and curiosity that keeps him active, playing ‘Crennis’ with Sachin Tendulkar, his childhood, how AI can reshape capitalism, and many more.

Is success in today’s capitalistic world bred by some form of adversity in childhood? Ten years from now, will a huge population be a boon or a bane from this capitalistic lens?

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 - Introduction

01:12 - Bill’s frequent visits to India

02:22 - Bill’s memoir Source Code, childhood and family dynamics

07:51 - Success in today’s capitalistic world

09:28 - What's the secret to Bill’s focus?

11:58 - Is vulnerability the new heroic trait?

14:50 - How tough is Bill on himself?

17:33 - Huge population: burden or advantage with AI?

20:55 - What would we do if we didn't have to work?

24:35 - Insights from being the world’s richest

29:05 - Money: Motivation to make it v/s be Altruistic?

34:25 - How Bill relates to the youth

39:15 - Nikhil's attempt to pitch for a job in the A.I world (he's serious)

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A conversation that veers from unexpected childhood confessions to what still drives him after decades at the top. Stay tuned for Part 2 of my conversation with Bill Gates.#NikhilKamath Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast Twitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_appFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/#BillGates Co-founder of Microsoft , Co-chair The Gates FoundationTwitter : https://twitter.com/BillGatesLinkedin : https://www.linkedin.com/in/williamhgates/Instagram : https://www.instagram.com/thisisbillgates/Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/BillGates/Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@billgatesWatch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4eznWatch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th #PeopleByWTF #WTFiswithnikhilkamath #WTFOnline

In our previous episodes, we’ve often spoken about the parallels between Business and Politics; be it risk taking abilities, micro vs macro zooming abilities, & most importantly, leadership.

In this episode, we sit down with Christopher Luxon, Prime Minister of New Zealand, to talk about exactly that. We also talk about the challenges of public scrutiny, and how global dynamics translate in today’s world.

If the leaders of tomorrow come from unexpected, and more nuanced places, who should we be looking at next? Could entrepreneurs, artists, business minds be the future of politics?

#NikhilKamath Co-founder of Zerodha, True Beacon and Gruhas

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Timestamps:

00:00 - Introduction

01:19 - PM Christopher on his Experience with India

02:38 - Haka in New Zealand’s Parliament

04:06 - Family & Prioritizing Responsibilities

06:41 - Transition from Business to Politics

09:41 - How Business Skills Affect Politics?

12:39 - Handling with the Highs & Lows

14:10 - PM Christopher on Dealing with Critique & Social Media

16:28 - The Role of Money in Politics

18:57 - Stakeholders vs. Citizens: The Tougher Audience?

20:06 - New Zealand’s Sheep-to-People Ratio

22:01 - Growing Investments & Economy in NZ

23:25 - Parallels in USA & NZ Politics

26:15 - PM Christopher on Meeting Trump

28:45 - Journey of Entrepreneurship to Politics

31:54 - Career Switch from & to Politics

36:12 - PM Christopher on Anticipated Geopolitical Conditions

37:09 - The Ideal Political Future

38:09 - In A World Without Fear

39:40 - Generational Shift in Optimism

Timestamps -

00:00 - Introduction

4:10 - Chapter 1 - Childhood

9:00 - Student Life

15:55 - Chapter 2 - Parallels between Politics & Entrepreneurship

17:36 - Competition in Politics

20:14 - Skills required to enter the field of Politics

30:39 - Importance of Ideology and Idealism

38:02 - Social Media and 'Moti Chamdi' in Politics

44:10 - Anxiety, Setbacks & Risk-Taking Ability

54:31 - Impact of Policymaking

1:01:26 - Stepping out of the Comfort Zone and learning from setbacks

1:15:18 - Personal Relationships

1:20:05 - Politics and Money

1:28:50 - Chapter 3 - Governance and Global Politics

1:31:20 - India's Global Standing in Tech

1:38:09 - India’s Global Marketing and Geopolitics

1:46:38 - Chapter 4 - Conclusion (& some fun)

1:55:00 - Concluding Views and Vision for the Youth

#NarendraModi - Prime Minister of India

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We often underestimate how complex leading a legacy might be. Success, I think, beyond a certain point is perhaps not as proportional to hard work as much as it becomes about who you are, where you are and the opportunities you create for yourself. To me, Authenticity should be transient. The most interesting question of life is why we are, how we are. In this episode of People by WTF, featuring Kumar Birla, we discuss the different nuances of just that, Life and other things.. #nikhilkamath Co-founder of Zerodha, True Beacon and Gruhas Host of 'WTF is' Podcast & People by WTF Twitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/ #KumarBirla - Chairman of the Aditya Birla Group Time stamps - 00:00 - Introduction 2:33 - Chapter 1 - Kumar’s Childhood 4:00 - Last Interview years ago with Simi Garewal 5:00 - Creativity in Business 9:20 - Aspirations and Fears as a child 15:56 - Birla Generational Distinction 28:50 - Attachment types 38:00 - “Life is much easier when your need to conform is lower” 44:38 - Kumar’s private life 50:20 - What does “legacy” mean to Kumar? | Philanthropy side 55:08 - Birla Family’s relationship with Mahatma Gandhi 1:01:55 - Kumar’s College Life 1:04:50 - Thoughts on Expressing Extreme Emotions 1:14:49 - Chapter 2 - Life, post becoming a Chartered Accountant 1:21:56 - Early days at the company at 20 | Sacrifices, Hard Work 1:25:15 - Friends from back in the day 1:26:40 - Habits | Food & Sports, Varied Interests 1:36:10 - Thoughts on Social Media 1:38:30 - Nikhil’s Transient Point of Views 1:49:40 - Chapter 3 - Taking Over The Reigns 1:55:20 - New Economic Policy In India 1991 1:57:15 - Thoughts on Private Equity/ Venture Capitalists 2:00:50 - Birla’s brands | Paints & Jewelry insights 2:05:00 - What would Nikhil build with 10 CR? 2:07:38 - Advice to young entrepreneurs 2:10:27 - Time to Pivot in Business | People Management 2:15:08 - Kumar on Intentional Living 2:17:20 - Closing Thoughts #peoplebywtf #wtfiswithnikhilkamath

Life is much simpler if your need to conform is lower. Our next guest needs no introduction.

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#nikhilkamath Co-founder of Zerodha, True Beacon and Gruhas Host of #wtfiswithnikhilkamath Twitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/ #KumarBirla Chairman of the Aditya Birla Group