Episode 48 of the How We Do Digital Ministry podcast features The Rev. Dr. Karyn Wiseman, Professor of homiletics at United Lutheran Seminary and Lead Pastor at Gloria Dei Church in Huntington Valley, Pennsylvania. Karyn and Charlotte Elia discuss congregational vitality through entrepreneurial ministry, the importance of public witness, and the urgency of preaching in this moment.

"A church has to be permission givers, and church leadership have to be permission givers. So when somebody comes in and says, I have this great idea, it's like, go for it. It doesn't have to go to six committees. It doesn't have to be approved in the budget a year from now. It's go for it. We'll find the money and the resources. Let's do it. Let's try it. That's what I wanna see in the church. And I think those are the churches that are being successful right now. They've just been giving permission to these new ways to be church." - Rev. Dr. Karyn Wiseman

Listen to the full episode as Karyn talks about these topics:

Training Pastors for the Church That Will Be [0:50]
Importance of Public Ministry [5:54]
Congregational Vitality and Viability [11:16]
Being a Christian Without Being a Jerk [15:16]
Witnessing Online [19:51]
The Urgency of Preaching Now [24:04]
Listening While Challenging [32:56]

You can find Karyn online here:

• https://twitter.com/txpreach
• https://www.instagram.com/txpreach/
• kwiseman@uls.edu

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