Jeff Baker is the Senior Director of Global Marketing at smartShift, a company that helps enterprises accelerate and automate SAP custom-code transformation. With more than 20 years of experience in enterprise software, he leads global efforts in strategy and branding. Jeff plays a key role in driving awareness and demand for smartShift’s AI-powered solutions.

Marketing is often seen as a creative function or a cost center, but what if it could be reframed as the engine that drives growth? In a world where buyers control their own journeys and retention is the new acquisition, how can companies shift their perspective and prove marketing’s real impact?

According to Jeff Baker, a marketing leader with nearly three decades of experience, the key lies in connecting every activity directly to revenue outcomes. He highlights that today’s customer journey is no longer linear — it’s dynamic, unpredictable, and shaped by peer reviews, research, and digital touchpoints. Retention, he stresses, is now just as important as acquisition, with loyalty and advocacy fueling long-term growth. By focusing on ROI, aligning with sales, and proving financial impact to boards, marketing can evolve from being dismissed as a cost to being recognized as a true growth engine.

In this episode of the Revenue Engine Podcast, host Alex Gluz speaks with Jeff Baker, Senior Director of Global Marketing at smartShift, to discuss turning marketing from a cost center into a growth engine. They explore why the old funnel is dead, how post-sale experiences build advocacy, and what boards really want to see from marketing. Jeff also shares the biggest challenges facing B2B SaaS leaders in 2025 and how to overcome them with a value-first approach.

Derek Weeks is the Chief Marketing Officer at Katalon, a company that provides an AI-augmented software quality management platform for automating testing and improving software development workflows. He brings over 30 years of marketing experience, including leadership roles at Sonatype and the Linux Foundation. Derek co-founded All Day DevOps and has pioneered efforts in open-source software supply chain security. He is also the author of Unfair Mindshare: A CMO’s Guide to Community-Led Marketing in a Product-Led World.

Building a loyal audience is harder than ever in the crowded B2B SaaS landscape. Traditional marketing tactics can struggle to break through, and customer acquisition costs continue to rise. How can companies create authentic connections that lead to long-term growth?

According to Derek Weeks, a seasoned marketing leader and pioneer in community-led strategies, the answer is to put audience needs first and consistently provide value before selling anything. He highlights that trust is earned by creating spaces where people can learn, share, and engage without feeling pitched. By leveraging user-generated content and empowering practitioners to create authentic conversations, he has seen communities grow to hundreds of thousands of members.

In this episode of the Revenue Engine Podcast, host Alex Gluz sits down with Derek Weeks, Chief Marketing Officer at Katalon, to discuss how community-led marketing drives sustainable B2B SaaS growth. They explore strategies to scale a product community from 60,000 to 117,000 members, why user-generated content lowers acquisition costs, and how to adapt content for the age of LLM search. Derek also shares lessons from building the All Day DevOps community and keeping audiences engaged over time.

Christine Royston is the Chief Marketing Officer at Wrike, an intelligent work management platform that helps teams build, connect, automate, and scale workflows. She joined in June 2024 after more than 20 years in B2B enterprise marketing. Before Wrike, Christine was VP and Global Head of Marketing at Udemy, where she helped grow annual recurring revenue from $100M to over $450M and led initiatives including an IPO and rebrand. She also held leadership roles at Bitly, Dropbox, Imperva, and Salesforce.

In today’s marketing landscape, every dollar spent is under a microscope, and leaders are under pressure to prove impact faster than ever. How can CMOs align their budgets, metrics, and customer strategies to show real business value while navigating constant change?

According to Christine Royston, a seasoned B2B marketing leader with global experience, the key is balance. She emphasizes that marketing must be both data-driven and customer-focused, ensuring pipeline and bookings remain at the center of conversations with executives. She highlights how aligning budgets with measurable outcomes builds trust across the business and creates room for innovation. By focusing on efficiency, clear communication, and proactive performance tracking, marketing leaders can demonstrate value early and often.

In this episode of the Revenue Engine Podcast, host Alex Gluz sits down with Christine Royston, Chief Marketing Officer at Wrike, to discuss how CMOs can align budgets, metrics, and customer value. She explains why data transparency builds stronger executive relationships, how to balance brand and demand generation, and the role of customer-centric thinking in growth. Christine also shares insights on adapting to AI-driven changes in marketing.