Welcome to Getting to Third Space with Lamar & Tom! CONTENT ADVISORY: THIS EPISODE OF GETTING TO 3RD SPACE WITH LAMAR AND TOM DISCUSSES A MASS SHOOTING, WITH FATALITIES, AND ITS AFTERMATH. On February 25, 2016, Lamar Roth, cohost of Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom, was Director of Human Resources for Excel Manufacturing in Hesston, Kansas. Cedric Ford, an Excel employee, entered the building and began shooting. That day four people died, including Cedric, more than a dozen others were wounded, and many, many more in Hesston, Kansas were traumatized by the events. In this podcast, and the next episode, Lamar and Tom talk about the mass shooting. We realize this may not be an easy topic for some of our listeners. If, by watching or listening to this podcast, you are affected and need to talk with someone, we encourage you to call or text 988 or go online to the 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline. Learn more: Hesston Shootings (Wikipedia) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hesston_shootings Officials: Four dead, 14 wounded in shooting at Excel Industries in Hesston - https://www.ksn.com/news/officials-four-dead-14-wounded-in-shooting-at-excel-industries-in-hesston/ Police Chief who killed active shooter speaks publicly (includes a timeline) - https://apnews.com/e6063286b32a4f8cba87e3bb18fa3cca

Shooting at Excel Industries: Looking Back & Moving Forward -https://www.rurallifestyledealer.com/blogs/1-from-the-desk-of-rld/post/8222-shooting-at-excel-industries-looking-back-moving-forward Hesston community remembers Excel shooting five years later - https://www.kwch.com/2021/02/25/hesston-community-remembers-excel-shooting-5-years-later/ Victory in gun dealer lawsuit: Global $2 million settlement reached with gun dealer who transferred firearms used in Excel Industries mass shooting - https://www.bradyunited.org/about-us/press/two-million-dollar-settlement-reached-with-gun-dealer-who-transferred-firearms-used-in-mass-shooting To watch the 2020 interview with Lamar Roth - Leading Through Traumatic Disruptive Events: A Conversation with Lamar Roth - https://youtu.be/3sEUEjUgINc?si=tkYAr7z0sJZyQG8V Ways to Hear and See Getting to Third Space Getting to Third Space is on all major audio podcast platforms including Spotify, iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, and Apple Podcasts. You can also watch us doing the podcast on the Tenacious Change Youtube channel at https://www.youtube.com/@tenaciouschange. Once there, click on “Podcasts” and you’ll be able to see the Getting to Third Space playlist. Or, if you like, copy and paste this link into your browser and it will take directly to that playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXwopowpXKCcrS7PV5MsdmHPANTzBKu_b Meet Lamar & Tom Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a Third Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a Third Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. To contact us with a comment, suggestion, ideas for guests or topics, or just to say hello, send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar.3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom.3rdSpace@gmail.com. Credits: Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus

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