Welcome to episode #956 of Six Pixels of Separation - The ThinkersOne Podcast.

Ravin Jesuthasan is a global thought leader, futurist, and bestselling author who has dedicated his career to exploring the future of work, AI, and workforce transformation. As the Senior Partner and Global Leader for Transformation Services at Mercer, he has collaborated with some of the world's most influential organizations to help them navigate the rapidly changing landscape of work. Ravin has led significant research projects for the World Economic Forum, focusing on topics like digital media's impact on society, talent strategies in the fourth industrial revolution, and redefining the value of human capital in the new world of work. In this conversation, Ravin delves into his latest book, The Skills-Powered Organization - The Journey To The Next Generation Enterprise that he co-authord with Tanuj Kapilashrami (check out his other five books). He emphasizes that as AI, climate change, and geopolitical conflicts reshape our world, there's an urgent need for organizations to transition from traditional job-based structures to skills-based models. This shift isn't just a minor adjustment - it requires rethinking how work is organized and how talent connects to it. By focusing on skills as the new currency of work, organizations can become more agile, resilient, and adaptable. Ravin shares compelling examples of how AI is already transforming industries like healthcare and financial services. As AI takes over more technical tasks, transferable skills - like empathy, creativity, and critical thinking become increasingly important. The Skills-Powered Organization serves as a practical guide for leaders looking to navigate this transition. Ravin provides a step-by-step roadmap, discussing critical organizational capabilities, the transformative changes required, and the role of AI in accelerating this journey. He also examines how this shift enables a more seamless talent ecosystem, blending various types of employee and non-employee labor. Whether you're a leader seeking to future-proof your organization or an individual aiming to stay relevant in a rapidly changing job market, Ravin's insights offer valuable guidance on embracing the next generation of work. Enjoy the conversation...

• Running time: 51:59.
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Chapters:

• (00:00) - Introduction and Background.
• (02:53) - AI's Impact on Work Processes in Healthcare.
• (06:11) - AI's Impact on Work Processes in Financial Services.
• (10:08) - The Challenges of Rapid Change and Upskilling.
• (15:09) - The Potential Distribution of Value in the Age of AI.
• (18:55) - Identifying and Developing Transferable Skills.
• (27:58) - The Impact of AI and Automation on Work.
• (30:10) - The Importance of Continuous Learning.
• (33:04) - Challenges of Reskilling.
• (39:21) - Creating a Skills-Powered Organization.

Welcome to episode #955 of Six Pixels of Separation - The ThinkersOne Podcast.

Michael Morris is a renowned cultural psychologist at Columbia University, where he teaches in both the Graduate School of Business and the Psychology Department. With previous teaching stints at Stanford University and a rich educational background from the University of Michigan and Brown University, Michael has dedicated his career to exploring how culture shapes the way we think, communicate, and collaborate. His research delves into the idea that while our genetic programming primes us to learn from our communities, the actual content of what we learn is deeply influenced by the cultural environments we're immersed in. In our conversation, Michael discusses his book, Tribal - How The Cultural Instincts That Divide Us Can Bring Us Together. He challenges the often negative connotations associated with tribalism, aiming to reclaim the term by highlighting its positive aspects. Michael explains that tribal psychology is an inherent part of human nature, encompassing instincts for solidarity, imitation, and the perpetuation of traditions. While tribalism can lead to division and conflict, he argues that these same instincts can also foster unity and collective action when harnessed constructively. We delve into real-world examples, including recent tribal conflicts and protests at institutions like Columbia Business School. Michael sheds light on why individuals engage passionately in such issues and how tradition and nostalgia play significant roles in tribal dynamics. He emphasizes that technology and social media aren't solely to blame for societal divisions - rather, these platforms amplify existing human tendencies rooted in our psychology. If you're curious about how our cultural instincts shape our interactions and how we can leverage them to bring people together, Michael's perspective provides a thoughtful and hopeful outlook. Enjoy the conversation...

• Running time: 1:01:13.
• Hello from beautiful Montreal.
• Subscribe over at Apple Podcasts.
• Please visit and leave comments on the blog - Six Pixels of Separation.
• Feel free to connect to me directly on Facebook here: Mitch Joel on Facebook.
• Check out ThinkersOne.
• or you can connect on LinkedIn.
• ...or on Twitter.
• Here is my conversation with Michael Morris.
• Tribal - How The Cultural Instincts That Divide Us Can Bring Us Together.
• Columbia University.
• Follow Michael on X.
• Follow Michael on LinkedIn.
• This week's music: David Usher 'St. Lawrence River'.

Chapters:

• (00:00) - Introduction and Background.
• (03:38) - Understanding Tribal Psychology.
• (06:01) - The Constructive and Destructive Aspects of Tribalism.
• (08:59) - Reclaiming the Word ‘Tribal'.
• (21:05) - The Role of Technology in Tribalism.
• (27:28) - The Potential for Collective Action and Solutions.
• (30:30) - Tribal Conflicts at Columbia Business School.
• (36:18) - The Role of Tradition and Nostalgia in Tribalism.
• (41:45) - Distinguishing Cults from Religions.
• (52:34) - The Power of Nostalgia and Conformity.
• (58:54) - Harnessing Tribal Psychology for Positive Outcomes.