Sharon Lim is the Chairwoman (and former CEO) of Browzwear, a global 3D fashion technology company with 180 employees spread across APAC, the US, Europe, and the Middle East. Under her leadership, Browzwear has generated tens of millions in revenue, driven by a unique focus on “pulse” metrics and a culture of rest. Sharon has also founded a venture-building arm—investing in ESG businesses and pioneering AI innovation through Fashion AI Hub. In our conversation, we discuss:

• How she pivoted from B2C to B2B (and from near-bankruptcy to sustainability)
• Why she champions “pulse” metrics over revenue (and what that actually looks like)
• The importance of rest in a venture-backed, fast-scaling environment
• How Sharon embraces failure as part of personal and business growth
• Her approach to building a strong leadership team and handing over the reins
• Lessons learned on enterprise sales, open ecosystems, and sustainable growth
• Much more!

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Quick fire round:

Books:
1. How will you measure your life by Clayton M. Christensen: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13425570-how-will-you-measure-your-life
2. The Board and the CEO by Peter Greer: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/35946208-the-board-and-the-ceo
3. Bible: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/5883777-the-holy-bible

Movie:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2872518/

Listen on:

• Youtube: https://youtu.be/ILkenL_AS1A
• Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3wE8800oYIEnxlIqlnBSZs?si=he2Mxkp5Ske7_zeeGQsbGg
• Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-failure-and-rest-built-an-8-figure-3d/id1781364637?i=1000682725275

Joel is the Cofounder and CEO of Protos Labs, Southeast Asia’s cyber-insurance and risk management startup. This is an episode on resilience, innovation, and faith, as he scaled Protos Labs from an idea to a Pre-Series A $3M-funded company in one of the region’s complex industries. In this episode, Joel shares how he:
- Navigated having only $5,000 in the bank while raising $3M to scale
- Quit his job based on faith to start companies when he had the most commitments in his life
- Built a proprietary cybersecurity framework inspired by a dream
- Combined faith and business to make business decisions
- Crafted a thriving company culture and won the NTUC Most Progressive Employer Award
- Positioned Protos Labs as a leader in Asia's growing cyber-insurance market

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Shownotes:

21 Laws of Leadership by John C Maxwell: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/815716.The_21_Irrefutable_Laws_of_Leadership

00:00 Introduction and Guest Background
02:10 Joel's Entrepreneurial Journey before startups
03:11 Deep Dive into Cybersecurity
05:35 Protos Labs: Mission and Growth
07:29 Origins of Protos
24:47 Hearing God's Call in Life
25:20 Building a Founding Team for Protos
26:52 Is the hate for strategy consultants warranted?
37:25 Creating a Positive Company Culture
43:50 Scaling Up and Fundraising Insights
48:00 Early Challenges and Government Contracts
49:46 Financial Struggles and Miraculous Funding
58:25 Balancing Faith and Wealth in Business
01:07:35 Christian Entrepreneurship and Success
01:14:26 YC's Request For Startup on Fintechs - Beginners' Mindset vs Experience in Cybersecurity
01:16:14 Innovative Approaches to Scaling and Productizing
01:17:37 Which threat is bigger - global or local competitors?
01:25:02 Balancing Personal and Professional Life
01:36:49 Reflections and Rapid Fire Round
01:42:06 Rapid fire round

Larry is the Founder and CEO of SoTravel, Singapore's social travel app. In this episode, he shares how he:
👉 Turned his side hustle into a full-time venture after getting fired
👉 Built multiple failed apps before discovering the 'right' way to build
👉 Executing ideas and features from first-principles
👉 Validated Sotravel and continuously experiments with new features
👉 Leverages AI and tech to build a $3 million company with just 10 people
👉 Created a thriving travel community of fans

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Shownotes:

Tarpit idea: https://www.ycombinator.com/library/Ij-tarpit-ideas-what-are-tarpit-ideas-how-to-avoid-them

Book recommendations:
Get Together: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/49766350-get-together
Lee Kuan Yew: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10379147-lee-kuan-yew
Nassim Taleb: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/242472.The_Black_Swan