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  • Persuasion, Part 3, and Laphroaig Select, AND Sarah and Karen
    2024/11/11
    Michael and Ethan, with special wife guests Karen and Sarah, discuss their (somewhat slimmer than usual) Mondo Book for the year: Persuasion, by Jane Austen.In this episode:Again making use of our intern-generated, wonderful, thoughtful, very serious discussion guideKaren definitely makes multiple references to to Mrs Jennings, a character from Sense and Sensibility and NOT this novelA block of wood would be a better father than Anne’s actual fatherMeanwhile, Ethan says “verb” when he clearly means “adjective” so I guess everyone’s a sinnerThe wives get in some pretty good burns on Sir Walter, including:Sir Walter is so obsessed with himself that he takes the opening of the novel away from AnneSir Walter is a toddlerFrom the beginning of The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn:NOTICE.Persons attempting to find a motive in this narrative will be prosecuted; persons attempting to find a moral in it will be banished; persons attempting to find a plot in it will be shot.BY ORDER OF THE AUTHOR PER G. G., CHIEF OF ORDNANCE.Is Anne a real character with agency or just sort of a wavy balloon guy for the wind to blow around?Karen is Anne, Anne is Emma, Sarah is the walrus, coo coo ca chooComing soon: Persuasion and the Alien InvasionPersuasion and PsirensNext time Michael and Ethan will continue the discussion of their Mondo Book for the year: Persuasion, by Jane Austen! Join the discussion! Go to the Contact page and put "Scotch Talk" in the Subject line. We'd love to hear from you! And submit your homework at the Michael & Ethan in a Room with Scotch page. Join us on GoodReads!Donate to our Patreon!BUY A NIHILIST BLANKET! Your Hosts: Michael G. Lilienthal (@mglilienthal) and Ethan Bartlett (@bjartlett) MUSIC & SFX: "Kessy Swings Endless - (ID 349)" by Lobo Loco. Used by permission. "The Grim Reaper - II Presto" by Aitua. Used under an Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike License. "Thinking It Over" by Lee Rosevere. Used under an Attribution License.In this episode:What an excellent rule (sorry, Risha)An unpopular opinion that captures several important thingsAusten as a writer who maybe should be listened to at least as much as read?Reading novels was basically the 19th-century version of GameboyJANE DID A CLIFFHANGERIs Persuasion unfilmable?VERY EXCITING DICTION DISCUSSIONJane Austen: all sarcasm all the time maybe?The Keira Knightley one, the one with the Dashwood Sisters, the one with the name we can’t say…One very simple blockage: the miscommunication tropeThe blockage is always the title of the bookNext time Michael and Ethan will continue the discussion of their Mondo Book for the year: Persuasion, by Jane Austen! Join the discussion! Go to the Contact page and put "Scotch Talk" in the Subject line. We'd love to hear from you! And submit your homework at the Michael & Ethan in a Room with Scotch page.Join us on GoodReads!Donate to our Patreon!BUY A NIHILIST BLANKET!Your Hosts: Michael G. Lilienthal (@mglilienthal) andEthan Bartlett (@bjartlett)MUSIC & SFX:"Kessy Swings Endless - (ID 349)" by Lobo Loco. Used by permission."The Grim Reaper - II Presto" by Aitua. Used under an Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike License."Thinking It Over" by Lee Rosevere. Used under an Attribution License.
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    1 時間 24 分
  • Smooch/Marry/Kill... but for books?
    2024/10/28

    On this “special” episode, Michael forces Ethan to play his weird game, smooch/marry/kill, but with books. If it’s a bad episode, it should be emphasized, it IS Michael’s fault.

    In this episode:

    It almost turns into the Dune/Lawrence of Arabia show ALMOST IMMEDIATELY and that’s Michael’s fault

    Michael references a “summer evening” which is relevant to when we recorded this episode but not to when it’s coming out, sorry

    It also almost becomes a cocktail episode which is also Michael’s fault, and these bullet points are even before we get to the actual premise of the episode which Ethan is VERY salty about

    Ethan and Psyche rout Michael’s little death trick

    We don’t know what the MPA rating standards are for podcasts

    Japanese cats make the most enticing smooches because you have to work for them

    This podcast’s next t-shirt and also tagline: “Low demand, high fun”

    EVERYONE BE COOL AND IMAGINE ROUND TWO IN WISHBONE TERMS

    WE DON’T CONDONE NASTINESS

    Hendiadys: one through two, and we love it

    Old armchair smooch: a very real thing that people do say and have said

    Tom Jones expected to be killed one of these days

    Next time Michael and Ethan will continue the discussion of their Mondo Book for the year: Persuasion, by Jane Austen! Join the discussion! Go to the Contact page and put "Scotch Talk" in the Subject line. We'd love to hear from you! And submit your homework at the Michael & Ethan in a Room with Scotch page.

    Join us on GoodReads!

    Donate to our Patreon!

    BUY A NIHILIST BLANKET!

    Your Hosts: Michael G. Lilienthal (@mglilienthal) and

    Ethan Bartlett (@bjartlett)

    MUSIC & SFX:

    "Kessy Swings Endless - (ID 349)" by Lobo Loco. Used by permission.

    "The Grim Reaper - II Presto" by Aitua. Used under an Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike License.

    "Thinking It Over" by Lee Rosevere. Used under an Attribution License.

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    1 時間 5 分
  • Persuasion, Part 2, and Laphroaig Select, AND Stiners and Lydia
    2024/10/15

    Michael and Ethan, with special guests Lydia and Christina (aka Stiners), discuss their (somewhat slimmer than usual) Mondo Book for the year: Persuasion, by Jane Austen.

    In this episode:

    Our intern wrote us this very thorough, very thoughtful, and overall excellent discussion guide

    A sort of Damocles

    True gnosis will lead you to a binary choice

    Christina’s Walter Elliot thoughts

    Captain Wentworth: a hot blank canvas

    Lydia would maybe have to bully Wentworth

    There aren’t any examples of persuasion in this book other than like 75 examples

    Jane Austen: Unionize! (because it’s about marriage but also class solidarity)

    We will be producing “Persuasion but it’s the Blair Witch Project” soon

    Coming soon: Lydia’s Ramblings (maybe)

    Next time Michael and Ethan will continue the discussion of their Mondo Book for the year: Persuasion, by Jane Austen! Join the discussion! Go to the Contact page and put "Scotch Talk" in the Subject line. We'd love to hear from you! And submit your homework at the Michael & Ethan in a Room with Scotch page.

    Join us on GoodReads!

    Donate to our Patreon!

    BUY A NIHILIST BLANKET!

    Your Hosts: Michael G. Lilienthal (@mglilienthal) and

    Ethan Bartlett (@bjartlett)

    MUSIC & SFX:

    "Kessy Swings Endless - (ID 349)" by Lobo Loco. Used by permission.

    "The Grim Reaper - II Presto" by Aitua. Used under an Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike License.

    "Thinking It Over" by Lee Rosevere. Used under an Attribution License.

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    1 時間 16 分
  • Persuasion, Part 1, and Laphroaig Select, AND Erin and Risha
    2024/09/24

    Michael and Ethan, with special guests Erin and Risha, inaugurate their discussion of their (somewhat slimmer than usual) Mondo Book for the year: Persuasion, by Jane Austen.

    In this episode:

    What an excellent rule (sorry, Risha)

    An unpopular opinion that captures several important things

    Austen as a writer who maybe should be listened to at least as much as read?

    Reading novels was basically the 19th-century version of Gameboy

    JANE DID A CLIFFHANGER

    Is Persuasion unfilmable?

    VERY EXCITING DICTION DISCUSSION

    Jane Austen: all sarcasm all the time maybe?

    The Keira Knightley one, the one with the Dashwood Sisters, the one with the name we can’t say…

    One very simple blockage: the miscommunication trope

    The blockage is always the title of the book

    Next time Michael and Ethan will continue the discussion of their Mondo Book for the year: Persuasion, by Jane Austen! Join the discussion! Go to the Contact page and put "Scotch Talk" in the Subject line. We'd love to hear from you! And submit your homework at the Michael & Ethan in a Room with Scotch page.

    Join us on GoodReads!

    Donate to our Patreon!

    BUY A NIHILIST BLANKET!

    Your Hosts: Michael G. Lilienthal (@mglilienthal) and

    Ethan Bartlett (@bjartlett)

    MUSIC & SFX:

    "Kessy Swings Endless - (ID 349)" by Lobo Loco. Used by permission.

    "The Grim Reaper - II Presto" by Aitua. Used under an Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike License.

    "Thinking It Over" by Lee Rosevere. Used under an Attribution License.

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    1 時間 21 分
  • Stella Maris, by Cormac McCarthy, and Bunnahabhain 12, Part 2
    2024/06/24

    CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of suicide.

    Michael and Ethan continue their discussion of Stella Maris, by Cormac McCarthy, while drinking Bunnahabhain 12yo single malt.

    In this episode:

    Michael is mean

    As Likely to End the World as to Save it: Knowledge and Science in Cormac McCarthy, by Philip Bunn (this bullet point happened a few eps ago, but it deserves repeating)

    Unconscious/subconscious, and what the difference is, and whether it matters

    Trying to be the smartest person in the world, and also have companionship

    The dangers of language, or, words are bad

    Lotsa Gnosticism

    William Blake, and a little bit Lovecraft, but mostly Blake

    A memory of a stupid review

    Like The Passenger, this book is secretly about the atomic bomb

    Anaximander, who thought existence is a wrong done to the universe

    Hurtfully, this book is Catcher in the Rye

    Ethan gets the name of Pokemon Rollout deeply wrong right at the end, lol

    Next time Michael and Ethan will the discussion of their Mondo Book for the year: Persuasion, by Jane Austen! Join the discussion! Go to the Contact page and put "Scotch Talk" in the Subject line. We'd love to hear from you! And submit your homework at the Michael & Ethan in a Room with Scotch page.

    Join us on GoodReads!

    Donate to our Patreon!

    BUY A NIHILIST BLANKET!

    Your Hosts: Michael G. Lilienthal (@mglilienthal) and

    Ethan Bartlett (@bjartlett)

    MUSIC & SFX:

    "Kessy Swings Endless - (ID 349)" by Lobo Loco. Used by permission.

    "The Grim Reaper - II Presto" by Aitua. Used under an Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike License.

    "Thinking It Over" by Lee Rosevere. Used under an Attribution License.

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    1 時間 34 分
  • Stella Maris, by Cormac McCarthy, and Bunnahabhain 12, Part 1
    2024/06/10

    CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of suicide.

    Michael and Ethan begin their discussion of Stella Maris, by Cormac McCarthy, while drinking Bunnahabhain 12yo single malt.

    In this episode:

    We’re sleeping together on the couch/futon tonight

    Cover blurbs, or, the marketing materials are contributing to the discussion of what these books are

    Hot takes on Pynchon cover blurbs, with a side-route into conspiracy

    Is Stella Maris a coda?

    If you stretch, and stretch, and stretch, and bring in GK Chesterton, maybe anything can be repaired

    Why do Bobby and the Thalamide Kid both have flippers replacing certain digits?

    Is the story a Socratic dialogue, a Platonic dialogue, or a story where the character Alicia is constructing a Socratic/Platonic dialogue?

    Mathematics vs. philosophy vs. the looney bin

    Next time Michael and Ethan will continue to discuss Stella Maris, by Cormac McCarthy! Join the discussion! Go to the Contact page and put "Scotch Talk" in the Subject line. We'd love to hear from you! And submit your homework at the Michael & Ethan in a Room with Scotch page.

    Join us on GoodReads!

    Donate to our Patreon!

    BUY A NIHILIST BLANKET!

    Your Hosts: Michael G. Lilienthal (@mglilienthal) and

    Ethan Bartlett (@bjartlett)

    MUSIC & SFX:

    "Kessy Swings Endless - (ID 349)" by Lobo Loco. Used by permission.

    "The Grim Reaper - II Presto" by Aitua. Used under an Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike License.

    "Thinking It Over" by Lee Rosevere. Used under an Attribution License.

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    1 時間 15 分
  • The Passenger, by Cormac McCarthy, and Bunnahabhain 12, Part 2
    2024/05/28

    CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of suicide.

    Michael and Ethan continue their discussion of The Passenger, by Cormac McCarthy, while drinking Bunnahabhain 12yo single malt.

    In this episode:

    Concise answers, reining it in, etc

    Is this book JD Salinger’s (incest) Franny and Zooey?

    Is McCarthy’s body of work just him taking previous works and adding greater shock value?

    Are these books Catcher in the Rye? If so, can Ethan deal?

    Is Bobby socially inept or socially VERY ept?

    Is Bobby Oedipus Rex?

    Is Alicia the Virgin Mary, or Medea, or both?

    Will Ethan get distracted by how overrated he finds Oppenheimer?

    How did you get here?

    Are you the passenger? Are we all the passenger?

    Did Oswald kill JFK? And whether he did or not, why do we spend 30 pages of this book discussing it?

    Does the climax of this book occur 100+ pages before the end of the text?

    Is The Thalamide Kid a hallucination, an alien, a quantum agent of some kind, an angel, a demon, or a broken-off shard of Alicia’s consciousness?

    Given every single thing these books are about, why are they such a delight?

    Next time Michael and Ethan will begin to discuss Stella Maris, by Cormac McCarthy! Join the discussion! Go to the Contact page and put "Scotch Talk" in the Subject line. We'd love to hear from you! And submit your homework at the Michael & Ethan in a Room with Scotch page.

    Join us on GoodReads!

    Donate to our Patreon!

    BUY A NIHILIST BLANKET!

    Your Hosts: Michael G. Lilienthal (@mglilienthal) and

    Ethan Bartlett (@bjartlett)

    MUSIC & SFX:

    "Kessy Swings Endless - (ID 349)" by Lobo Loco. Used by permission.

    "The Grim Reaper - II Presto" by Aitua. Used under an Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike License.

    "Thinking It Over" by Lee Rosevere. Used under an Attribution License.

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    1 時間 13 分
  • The Passenger, by Cormac McCarthy, and Bunnahabhain 12, Part 1
    2024/05/13

    CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of suicide.

    Michael and Ethan begin their discussion of The Passenger, by Cormac McCarthy, while drinking Bunnahabhain 12yo single malt.

    In this episode:

    Some hot takes on The Road to start us off

    A reading group guide

    It takes a really long time to answer the extremely simple question of who the title character is

    Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle in a work of fiction (also, obligatory Gene Wolfe reference)

    As Likely to End the World as to Save it: Knowledge and Science in Cormac McCarthy, by Philip Bunn

    Shifting and fuzzy definitions, somewhat intentionally

    The Passenger of this book is literally this book

    Is this book an 18th-century novel?

    A NEW THING: Join us on GoodReads!

    Next time Michael and Ethan will begin to discuss The Passenger, by Cormac McCarthy! Join the discussion! Go to the Contact page and put "Scotch Talk" in the Subject line. We'd love to hear from you! And submit your homework at the Michael & Ethan in a Room with Scotch page.

    Join us on GoodReads!

    Donate to our Patreon!

    BUY A NIHILIST BLANKET!

    Your Hosts: Michael G. Lilienthal (@mglilienthal) and

    Ethan Bartlett (@bjartlett)

    MUSIC & SFX:

    "Kessy Swings Endless - (ID 349)" by Lobo Loco. Used by permission.

    "The Grim Reaper - II Presto" by Aitua. Used under an Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike License.

    "Thinking It Over" by Lee Rosevere. Used under an Attribution License.

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    1 時間 12 分