Each year, we sit down and look at the year ahead and, inevitably, end up discussing the books we are looking forward to. This year we invited long time friends of the podcast Charlie Jane Anders and Ian Mond to join us.

During a lively conversation it became clear that, no matter what else is happening in the world, there's a lot of wonderful work coming out in 2025, and this only scratches the surface of it.

As always, our thanks to Charlie Jane and Ian for making the time to join us.

As promised, here are our lists.

Charlie Jane Anders

1. Oathbound, Tracy Deonn
2. Harriet Tubman Live in Concert, Bob the Drag Queen
3. Terms of Service, Ciel Pierlot
4. Notes from a Regicide, Isaac Fellman
5. Meet Me at the Crossroads, Megan Giddings
6. Harmattan Season, Tochi Onyebuchi

Ian Mond

1. Waterblack, Alex Pheby
2. The Crimson Road, A. G. Slatter
3. Exit Zero, Marie-Helene Bertino
4. Major Arcana, John Pistelli
5. The Antidote, Karen Russell

Gary K. Wolfe

1. Written on the Dark, Guy Gavriel Kay
2. When We Were Real, Daryl Gregory
3. A Granite Silence, Nina Allan
4. Frankenstein Rex, Adam Roberts
5. Lessons in Magic and Disaster, Charlie Jane Anders

Jonathan

1. Luminous, Silvia Park
2. Sour Cherry, Natalia Theodoridou
3. The Devils, Joe Abercrombie
4. The Everlasting, Alix E Harrow
5. All That We See or Seem, Ken Liu

For those who might have been hoping our 2025 podcasts might get a little more focused and coherent, our apologies. Following up on several discussions on social media about how to learn about overlooked but deserving novels (mostly fantasy), we speculate on the factors that help a book or author gain and keep some sort of traction. Reprint programs like the Gollancz Masterworks or Tor Essentials might help, but we mention a handful of authors who have written wonderful work that is worth a fresh look, including Tanith Lee, Michael Bishop, Lisa Goldstein, Tim Powers, Michael Moorcock, Graham Joyce, and others. We also touch upon the notion of formula in SF and fantasy, and end with some of our current reading.

This week’s episode is mostly about books—how do you get them, where do you put them, and how to get rid of them when you need to. You’d think that questions such as the best way to shelve books would be pretty uncontroversial, but apparently that’s not always the case. We also touch upon the differences between collectors, acquirers, and accumulators, and how books can radically fluctuate in value depending in part on the author’s reputation. But, being us, we also digress into such topics as the thrill of discovering a classic SF idea for the first time—even if it might seem old hat to veteran readers—and the beginnings of our discussion about year-end recommended reading lists, and what they really mean.