Jordan Kruger is CoFounder of Metronome and Vesper Finance. Zane Huffman is CoFounder of Metronome and CSO of Bloq. In this episode of The DeFi Podcast, we interview 2 crypto OGs who pivoted to building full time in DeFi back in 2020, which led to the launch of Vesper Finance, designed for easy single-deposit token vault strategies. During this interview, we focus on their latest protocol Metronome, which enables users to generate a variety of synthetics using cryptoassets as collateral. Their newest product Smart Farming is a degen's paradise with up to 4-5X looping to instantly create leveraged positions with like-assets, backed by interest-earning collateral like vaFRAX or vaSTETH deposited in Vesper vaults. This is a great interview and tutorial for those new to the concept of looping in DeFi and how it works. ------ THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION OR ENDORSEMENT TO BUY ANY TOKEN OR NFT RELATED TO ANY PLATFORMS DISCUSSED. ------ 🌲 CHECK OUT MY OTHER POD--THE EDGE PODCAST: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod 🔎 DISCOVER DEFI & WEB3 BLOG POSTS, PODCASTS, TUTORIALS: http://defidad.com/ ✅ FOLLOW DEFI DAD ON TWITTER: https://twitter.com/DeFi_Dad ------ Podcast Sponsor Resources 🏗️ MANTLE | HIGH-PERFORMANCE ETHEREUM L2 WITH MODULAR DESIGN, LOW FEES, AND HIGH SECURITY https://linktr.ee/mantle.xyz ⚖️ KYBERSWAP | DECENTRALIZED EXCHANGE AGGREGATOR AND AMM https://kyberswap.com/?&utm_source=KOL&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=defidad&utm_content=overview 📈 GTRADE | DECENTRALIZED LEVERAGE TRADING https://gains.trade/

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https://avocado.instadapp.io/ ⛩️ UTOPIA | PAYROLL AND EXPENSE MANAGEMENT FOR DAOS https://www.utopialabs.com/ 🌊 STADER | MULTICHAIN LIQUID STAKING https://staderlabs.com/ 🚀 LIQUITY | UNSTOPPABLE ETH-BACKED STABLECOINS AND LEVERAGE https://www.liquity.org/ ------ Topics Covered 00:00 - Intro 05:25 - Jordan's background 09:10 - Zane's background 11:20 - Lessons from this crypto bear market 16:30 - What is Metronome 19:35 - Smart Farming application 23:45 - The utility of synths 29:00 - Risks of Smart Farming 34:40 - Synth minting fee 38:20 - What's next for Metronome 40:23 - Closing ------ Guest Links Jordan on Twitter https://twitter.com/JordanJKruger Zane on Twitter https://twitter.com/jeffthedunker Metronome on Twitter https://twitter.com/MetronomeDAO Learn about Metronome https://metronome.io/ Learn about Vesper Finance https://vesper.finance/ ------ 🙏 If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact my team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/ All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests, DeFi Dad, and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research.

Isaac Prada is the Head of PR and Project Management at Radiant Capital, a DeFi omnichain lending and borrowing market. In this episode of The DeFi Podcast, Isaac shares all the lessons the Radiant Capital team has used to design some of the most forwarding thinking tokenomics in DeFi. He discusses how Radiant became one of most popular DeFi apps on the Ethereum L2 Arbitrum and how they designed Radiant V2 to reward long term contributors to Radiant and prevent mercenary farmers from farming their token to 0. 🎙️ If you prefer a podcast player, subscribe and listen to The DeFi Podcast here: https://anchor.fm/defidad THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION OR ENDORSEMENT TO BUY ANY TOKEN OR NFT RELATED TO ANY PLATFORMS DISCUSSED. ------ 🙏 If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact my team at 4RC: https://fourthrevolution.capital/ ------ 🌿 SUBSCRIBE TO DEFI DAD ON LENSTUBE: https://lenstube.xyz/defidad.lens ✅ FOLLOW DEFI DAD ON TWITTER: https://twitter.com/DeFi_Dad 🌲 DISCOVER DEFI AND WEB3 BLOG POSTS, INTERVIEWS, AND TUTORIALS: http://defidad.com/ ------ The DeFi Podcast Resources 📈 KYBERSWAP | DECENTRALIZED EXCHANGE AGGREGATOR AND AMM 📊 PUSH PROTOCOL | WEB3 COMMS PROTOCOL 🌊 STADER | MULTICHAIN LIQUID STAKING 🌿 LENS | DECENTRALIZED SOCIAL GRAPH 📱ORB | IOS/ANDROID MOBILE APP FOR LENS SOCIAL MEDIA ⛩️ UTOPIA | PAYROLL AND EXPENSE MANAGEMENT FOR DAOS ------ Topics Covered 00:00 - Intro 03:25 - Isaac's background 06:39 - The mission behind Radiant 08:35 - How Radiant differentiates from competitors 14:50 - RDNT emissions and DLP 24:30 - Looping, Zapping, Locking 28:45 - RDNT Vesting 30:30 - Building DeFi 3.0 33:30 - Lock Length, Eligibility Status 36:30 - Bounty Program 42:10 - Why no solo RDNT staking 44:25 - Liquidations 46:00 - ARB airdrop to Radiant DAO 49:25 - Launching on BSC 52:18 - What's next for Radiant 55:45 - Closing ------ Guest Links Isaac Prada on Twitter https://twitter.com/IsaacRadiant Radiant Capital on Twitter https://twitter.com/RDNTCapital Learn about Radiant Capital https://radiant.capital/ Radiant Discord https://discord.com/invite/radiantcapital ----- Not financial or tax advice. This channel is strictly educational and is not investment advice or a solicitation to buy or sell any assets or to make any financial decisions. Do your own research. All opinions expressed by DeFi Dad and guests are solely their own opinions and do not reflect the opinion of his team at 4RC.

Arif Khan is the CEO and CoFounder of Alethea AI, a research and development studio building at the intersection of generative AI and blockchain.  

In this episode, Arif shares why he believes we can avoid a future of "AI colonialism" with decentralized, community-owned AI, powered by DeFi and Web3. Arif has been working with two transformative technologies for years: artificial intelligence and crypto. He shares a strong conviction for why we can ensure many, instead of a few elites, benefit from the impact of AI by leveraging the decentralized, permissionless infrastructure of Web3.  

THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION OR ENDORSEMENT TO BUY ANY TOKEN OR NFT RELATED TO ANY PLATFORMS DISCUSSED.  

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🙏 If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact my team at 4RC: https://fourthrevolution.capital/

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🌲 DISCOVER DEFI AND WEB3 BLOG POSTS, INTERVIEWS, AND TUTORIALS: http://defidad.com/ 

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The DeFi Podcast Resources

📊 PUSH PROTOCOL | WEB3 COMMS PROTOCOL https://push.org/

🌊 STADER | MULTICHAIN LIQUID STAKING https://staderlabs.com/

🌿 LENS | DECENTRALIZED SOCIAL GRAPH https://lens.xyz/

📱ORB | IOS/ANDROID MOBILE APP FOR LENS SOCIAL MEDIA https://orb.ac/

🤖 UTILITI.AI | ALL-IN-ONE PLATFORM TO LAUNCH DAPPS AND GAMES https://www.utiliti.ai/

⛩️ UTOPIA | PAYROLL AND EXPENSE MANAGEMENT FOR DAOS https://www.utopialabs.com/

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Topics Covered  

00:00 - Intro 

03:25 - Thoughts on bank runs and synthetic media 

07:00 - Why Arif got into AI 

10:45 - Alethea tokenizing AI with iNFTs 

15:45 - Why there should be self-custodial AI 

19:45 - Reality of AI being centralized and easily censored today 

24:00 - Could a tokenized community govern AI resources?

27:00 - Why democratic governance is necessary to govern AI 

32:45 - Web3 infra benefits AI 

34:50 - Free will distinguishes humans from AI 

36:30 - Will AI achieve its own free will? 

38:15 - Web3 elements to benefit AI 

44:20 - The risk of AI colonialism 

50:30 - Permissionless access to AI is key 

53:00 - Use cases of AI built by Alethea 

1:00:20 - Alethea analogy to the movie Her 

1:01:45 - Generative abundance, scarcity, trust, provenance 

1:05:00 - Challenges of synthetic media solved by Web3 

1:06:45 - Closing  

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Guest Links  Arif Khan on Twitter

https://twitter.com/ArKhan 

Alethea AI on Twitter 

https://twitter.com/real_alethea 

Learn about Alethea AI 

https://alethea.ai/ 

Alethea AI Discord 

https://discord.gg/aletheaai 

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Not financial or tax advice. This channel is strictly educational and is not investment advice or a solicitation to buy or sell any assets or to make any financial decisions. Do your own research. All opinions expressed by DeFi Dad and guests are solely their own opinions and do not reflect the opinion of his team at 4RC.  

DeFi Dad has participated in Alethea since 2021 and holds the ALI token as of this recording.

Joe Andrews is the CoFounder of Aztec Protocol, a next-generation encrypted blockchain secured by Ethereum.  

In this episode, Joe discusses with me the long awaited development of technology to enable us to transact privately in DeFi, while inheriting the security of the Ethereum blockchain. We talk about why privacy is a right, how Aztec has launched their Aztec Connect SDK to build seamless integrations with DeFi protocols, and the benefits of private payments and DeFi transactions using their flagship product, zk.money.  

THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION OR ENDORSEMENT TO BUY ANY TOKEN OR NFT RELATED TO ANY PLATFORMS DISCUSSED.  

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🙏 If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact my team at 4RC: https://fourthrevolution.capital/ 

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🌿 SUBSCRIBE TO DEFI DAD ON LENSTUBE: https://lenstube.xyz/defidad.lens

✅ FOLLOW DEFI DAD ON TWITTER: https://twitter.com/DeFi_Dad

🌲 DISCOVER DEFI AND WEB3 BLOG POSTS, INTERVIEWS, AND TUTORIALS: http://defidad.com/ 

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DeFi Talks Resources  

🌊 STADER | MULTICHAIN LIQUID STAKING 

https://staderlabs.com/ 

🌿 LENS | DECENTRALIZED SOCIAL GRAPH 

https://lens.xyz/ 

📱ORB | IOS/ANDROID MOBILE APP FOR LENS SOCIAL MEDIA 

https://orb.ac/ 

🤖 UTILITI.AI | ALL-IN-ONE PLATFORM TO LAUNCH DAPPS AND GAMES 

https://www.utiliti.ai/ 

📊 PUSH PROTOCOL | WEB3 COMMS PROTOCOL FOR CHAT AND NOTIFICATIONS 

https://push.org/ 

⛩️ UTOPIA | PAYROLL AND EXPENSE MANAGEMENT FOR DAOS 

https://www.utopialabs.com/ 

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Topics Covered  

00:00 - Intro 

03:55 - Background to Joe and Aztec 

06:45 - What problem Aztec is trying to solve 

11:00 - The zk tech underpinning Aztec 

14:00 - The future of DeFi UX with privacy 

24:00 - What happens under the hood when we use DeFi via zk.money 

28:30 - How will other protocols and L2s use the Aztec Connect SDK 

31:25 - How is Aztec building in the aftermath of Tornado Cash being sanctioned 

36:45 - What's next on the roadmap for Aztec 

38:15 - Closing  

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Guest Links  Aztec on Twitter 

https://twitter.com/aztecnetwork 

Learn about Aztec 

https://aztec.network/ 

Learn about zk.money 

https://zk.money/ 

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Not financial or tax advice. This channel is strictly educational and is not investment advice or a solicitation to buy or sell any assets or to make any financial decisions. Do your own research. All opinions expressed by DeFi Dad and guests are solely their own opinions and do not reflect the opinion of his team at 4RC.  

DeFi Dad was an angel investor in Aztec's Series A round.

Aaron Wright is a founding member of The LAO, Flamingo DAO, and now Tribute Labs. He was early to Bitcoin, invested in the Ethereum presale, and went on to found one of the earliest protocols on Ethereum called OpenLaw while working for years at the Ethereum venture studio ConsenSys.  

In this episode, Aaron discusses his remarkable career being early to Ethereum, dApps, DeFi, NFTs, DAOs, and the Web3-enabled Metaverse. I have known Aaron since 2017 and he's consistently early to mega trends in crypto, long before they catch fire in the mainstream. Aaron offers his humble reflections on what has allowed Ethereum to become the most dominant blockchain and why it's just getting started with an infinite number of applications, ideas, and economies to be built on it as an authentication/settlement layer.  

THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION OR ENDORSEMENT TO BUY ANY TOKEN OR NFT RELATED TO ANY PLATFORMS DISCUSSED.  

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🙏 If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact my team at 4RC: https://fourthrevolution.capital/ 

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🌿 SUBSCRIBE TO DEFI DAD ON LENSTUBE: https://lenstube.xyz/defidad.lens

✅ FOLLOW DEFI DAD ON TWITTER: https://twitter.com/DeFi_Dad

🌲 DISCOVER DEFI AND WEB3 BLOG POSTS, INTERVIEWS, AND TUTORIALS: http://defidad.com/ 

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DeFi Talks Resources  

🌿 LENS | DECENTRALIZED SOCIAL GRAPH

https://lens.xyz/ 

📱ORB | IOS/ANDROID MOBILE APP FOR LENS SOCIAL MEDIA

https://orb.ac/ 

📱 PHAVER | IOS/ANDROID MOBILE APP FOR LENS SOCIAL MEDIA 

https://phaver.com/ 

🐤 LENSTER | DECENTRALIZED SHORT-FORM SOCIAL MEDIA ON LENS 

https://lenster.xyz/ 

📺 LENSTUBE | DECENTRALIZED SOCIAL VIDEO PLATFORM ON LENS 

https://lenstube.xyz/ 

🤖 UTILITI.AI | ALL-IN-ONE PLATFORM TO LAUNCH DAPPS AND GAMES 

https://www.utiliti.ai/ 

📊 PUSH PROTOCOL | WEB3 COMMS PROTOCOL FOR CHAT AND NOTIFICATIONS 

https://push.org/ 

⛩️ UTOPIA | PAYROLL AND EXPENSE MANAGEMENT FOR DAOS 

https://www.utopialabs.com/ 

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Topics Covered  

00:00 - Intro 

02:00 - How Aaron found his tribe in Ethereum 

08:50 - What gave him the confidence to invest so early in Ethereum 

13:00 - The social fabric passed down by Ethereum builders 

17:50 - What theses have played and which have yet be fully realized 

20:30 - What's misunderstood about NFTs by the public 

26:50 - The power of authentication and property rights on Ethereum 

29:05 - Is gaming "the Metaverse?" 

31:15 - How ETH has evolved as a store-of-value and why it matters to big money managers 

35:30 - What trends he's excited for in 2023 

38:25 - What are the most repeatable traits he looks for in founders  

39:30 - Advice he'd give himself if he were new to crypto in 2023 

42:50 - Closing  

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Guest Links  

Aaron Wright on Twitter 

https://twitter.com/awrigh01  

Learn about Tribute Labs 

http://tributelabs.xyz/ 

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Not financial or tax advice. This channel is strictly educational and is not investment advice or a solicitation to buy or sell any assets or to make any financial decisions. Do your own research. All opinions expressed by DeFi Dad and guests are solely their own opinions and do not reflect the opinion of his team at 4RC.

Chris Comrie is a Web3 content creator and investor, who previously worked in the insurance agency and most recently in marketing for DeFi Yield. Through his experimenting and content, he has become one of the leading product experts on Lens Web3 social media applications.  

In this episode, Chris discusses his experience on the benefits of using early Web3 social media protocols and applications like Lens, how it differs from Web2, what's better about Web3 social media, why he doesn't see Web3 at odds with Web2, and why you should get started trying Lens applications like Lenstube, Orb, Phaver, and more.  

THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION OR ENDORSEMENT TO BUY ANY TOKEN OR NFT RELATED TO ANY PLATFORMS DISCUSSED.  

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🙏 If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact my team at 4RC: https://fourthrevolution.capital/ 

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🌿 SUBSCRIBE TO DEFI DAD ON LENSTUBE: https://lenstube.xyz/defidad.lens

✅ FOLLOW DEFI DAD ON TWITTER: https://twitter.com/DeFi_Dad

🌲 DISCOVER DEFI AND WEB3 BLOG POSTS, INTERVIEWS, AND TUTORIALS: http://defidad.com/ 

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DeFi Talks Resources  

🌿 LENS | DECENTRALIZED SOCIAL GRAPH - https://lens.xyz/ 

📱ORB | IOS/ANDROID MOBILE APP FOR LENS SOCIAL MEDIA - https://orb.ac/ 

📱 PHAVER | IOS/ANDROID MOBILE APP FOR LENS SOCIAL MEDIA - https://phaver.com/ 

🐤 LENSTER | DECENTRALIZED SHORT-FORM SOCIAL MEDIA ON LENS - https://lenster.xyz/ 

📺 LENSTUBE | DECENTRALIZED SOCIAL VIDEO PLATFORM ON LENS - https://lenstube.xyz/ 

🤖 UTILITI.AI | ALL-IN-ONE PLATFORM TO LAUNCH DAPPS AND GAMES - https://www.utiliti.ai/ 

📊 PUSH PROTOCOL | WEB3 COMMS PROTOCOL FOR CHAT AND NOTIFICATIONS - https://push.org/ 

⛩️ UTOPIA | PAYROLL AND EXPENSE MANAGEMENT FOR DAOS - https://www.utopialabs.com/ 

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Topics Covered  

00:00 - Intro 

01:48 - Background and what led to creating content on Lens social media 

04:00 - The difference between Web2 and Web3 social media 

07:00 - The power to port your follower graph with Lens 

12:45 - New distribution strategies made possible through Lens 

18:20 - How do we build a better UX than Web2, or is it necessary? 

20:30 - Which content is performing best in Web3 social media 

23:30 - New and old business models in development for Web3 media 

29:30 - Why Lens has gated new users from creating (bots, scaling) 

32:50 - Why new models for monetizing digital media makes sense 

33:35 - Why there's a huge land grab for creators in Web3 social media 

34:40 - How DeFi and NFTs could benefit Web3 social media 

36:20 - How Web3 social media breaks out 

38:05 - Where Chris sees biggest opportunity in Web3 social media 

41:00 - Closing  

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Guest Links  

Watch Chris Comrie's videos on Lenstube - https://lenstube.xyz/channel/chriscomrie.lens 

Chris Comrie on Twitter - https://twitter.com/Christafarious 

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Not financial or tax advice. This channel is strictly educational and is not investment advice or a solicitation to buy or sell any assets or to make any financial decisions. Do your own research. All opinions expressed by DeFi Dad and guests are solely their own opinions and do not reflect the opinion of his team at 4RC.

Robin Schmidt, aka SuperMassive, the former Head of Video and Media at The Defiant, and the original star of The Defiant Youtube channel, recently launched his new project called BasedAF.

As a producer/creator on Youtube for over 10 years and a filmmaker for over 20 years, we discuss his insights on The Creator Economy and how it has been impacted in both positive and negative ways by crypto. As an early adopter of new Web3 tooling such as NFTs, Robin shares how the game to retain your audience's attention hasn't changed much with Web3 as well as a few key lessons for creators, he learned during his time exploring and reporting on DeFi.  

THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION OR ENDORSEMENT TO BUY ANY FUTURE NFT RELATED TO BASEDAF.  

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🌲 DISCOVER DEFI AND WEB3 BLOG POSTS, INTERVIEWS, AND TUTORIALS ON DEFIDAD.COM

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DeFi Podcast Resources  

🤖 UTILITI.AI | ALL-IN-ONE PLATFORM TO LAUNCH DAPPS AND GAMES

🌊 STADER | MULTICHAIN LIQUID STAKING

🔔 PUSH PROTOCOL | WEB3 COMMUNICATIONS PROTOCOL

🌿 LENS | DECENTRALIZED SOCIAL GRAPH

📲 ORB | LENS SOCIAL MEDIA MOBILE APP

⛩️ UTOPIA | PAYROLL AND EXPENSE MANAGEMENT FOR DAOS

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Topics Covered  

00:00 - Background on earlier recording and new BasedAF launch 

01:30 - Intro 

05:00 - Robin's life before crypto and finding a home at The Defiant

15:00 - His time at The Defiant exploring DeFi

22:00 - What's the Creator Economy

32:30 - Where does Web3 fit into the Creator Economy

38:00 - The issue with audience value extraction by creators

46:00 - "It's the [Youtube] algorithm that's the problem, but it's also the game"

48:30 - As a creator, why Robin moved on to build BasedAF

52:30 - How the Metaverse serves new opportunities and reconnects us with lost parts of our own humanity

55:00 - Closing 

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Guest Links  

Learn about BasedAF using this Linktree 

BasedAF on Twitter

Robin Schmidt (SuperMassive) on Twitter

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Not financial or tax advice. This channel is strictly educational and is not investment advice or a solicitation to buy or sell any assets or to make any financial decisions. Do your own research. All opinions expressed by DeFi Dad and guests are solely their own opinions and do not reflect the opinion of his team at 4RC.

Disclosures: DeFi Dad's team at 4RC are investors in Utiliti.ai, Stader, Push Protocol, Lens, and Utopia. None of these teams pay DeFi Dad to be highlighted in the podcast description. All 4RC investments are listed here on the 4RC website and all of DeFi Dad's personal angel investments are updated on his Linktree regularly.