In this episode, Uli Iserloh and Mike Kim provide practical, tactical advice for health practitioners looking to master discovery calls and improve their patient enrollment process. They break down a proven framework for conducting effective discovery calls while maintaining authenticity and building genuine connections. Listen in to learn:

• A step-by-step guide for structuring discovery calls
• How to effectively listen and respond to prospect concerns
• Techniques for uncovering the emotional drivers behind health decisions
• Ways to build trust and rapport during conversations
• Strategies for transitioning from discovery calls to initial paid appointments
• The importance of having a systematic approach to discovery calls
• How to measure and improve your discovery call performance

Quotes:

• "Marketing is not about closing a sale, it's about opening a relationship." (2:15 | Mike)
• "You need to build that connection that people almost feel they're sort of in a coaching environment, that they can imagine how it would feel if they became your patient." (10:30 | Uli)
• "The goal at this point in a discovery call is probably not to get the big commitment for a three or six months program, but you want to get them to commit to their first paid initial appointment." (14:45 | Uli)

The hosts outline a seven-step framework for discovery calls:

1. Set the agenda for the call
2. Ask what caused them to reach out
3. Ask the pain question
4. Explore how it makes them feel
5. Discuss previous solutions tried
6. Share relevant "case studies"
7. Address their questions

Listen in to understand the importance of uncovering emotional motivations rather than just focusing on medical symptoms. Uli and Mike also discuss how to transition from discovery calls to initial paid appointments by offering a "test drive" approach rather than pushing for immediate commitment to longer programs.

The episode provides valuable insights for practitioners who struggle with the sales environment or feel anxious about discovery calls. Tune in for practical strategies to build confidence and improve conversion rates while maintaining professional integrity.

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In this episode, Uli Iserloh and Mike Kim provide practical, tactical advice for health practitioners looking to turn more discovery calls into committed patients – without feeling sleazy or pushy. They explain what needs to happen before you even get on a discovery call to increase your conversion rates while staying true to your values as a heart-centered practitioner.

This episode is part one of a two-part series diving deep into discovery call mastery. In this first installment, Uli and Mike focus on the critical pre-call elements and mindset shifts needed to set yourself up for success.

Listen in to learn:

• How to use intake forms strategically to create psychological commitment before the call
• Why the "persuasion process" starts long before the actual discovery call
• The three types of objections prospects have and how to address them proactively
• How to shift from a "closing" mindset to an "opening relationships" approach
• Why the DIY-to-professional care transition is your prospect's first crucial decision
• The importance of addressing modality, internal, and external objections before the call

Quotes:

• "Marketing isn't about closing a sale. It's about opening a relationship. So what do we do in good relationships? We hold space for the other person." (Mike Kim)
• "Selling is serving. If you want to serve them, then you have to get them to enroll." (Uli Iserloh)
• "People will do anything for those who justify their failures, allay their fears, throw rocks at their enemies, confirm suspicions, and encourage their dreams." (Mike Kim)
• "The first decision that they have to make on social media is, do I want to abandon the DIY approach? Do I want to maybe abandon the conventional medical approach?" (Uli Iserloh)

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In today’s episode with Scott Rattigan, co-founder of Origins Incubator and Functional Lawyer, we’re unpacking what it takes to launch and grow a successful private practice in the integrative and functional medicine space.

Along with his wife Linda - a board certified family medicine DO, they grew a successful private practice at Origins Functional Medicine - learning firsthand what goes into running a successful practice…

... and that experience in turn led to the creation of Origins Incubator, a mentorship program for health practitioners looking to strike out on their own.

So whether you’re looking to start a practice from scratch or you’re already in business for a while, today’s episode carries a lot of nuggets!

Personally, I've known Scott since 2015 when he joined the Evolution of Medicine team – and over the years, he's made many valuable contributions to our ecosystem...

... whether it's through his book "The Practice Of Telemedicine" - the quintessential guide to navigating the legal landscape – or through his educational videos.

• “One of our core values is, it's not a quick fix. It's not a magic pill. It'll still take work. Leverage your time to make the most bang for your buck.” (09:44 | 09:53 Scott)
• “Most of the things that keep people from growing or progressing are mental.” (13:54 | 13:58 Scott)
• “When you reach a certain level of removing all the barriers in the physical person's body, then some of the trauma or the emotional things will come up that were buried for a long time.” (19:20 | 19:27 Scott)
• “It really is about you and your story, because people will identify with your story. They want to see themselves in you.” (24:42 | 24:48 Scott)

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In this episode, Uli Iserloh and Mike Kim explore the transformative impact of AI tools on health and wellness marketing. They discuss practical applications of AI for practitioners and share insights on how to effectively leverage these tools while maintaining a personal touch.

Uli and Mike showcase how these tools can save time and enhance productivity without sacrificing quality or authenticity. Mike introduces the concept of the "5 C's" - Calendar, Clients, Community, Consuming, and Creating - as elements that AI can't replicate and that help maintain a personal touch in content.

Throughout the episode, Uli and Mike also address common concerns about AI adoption and share practical examples of how healthcare practitioners can integrate these tools into their daily workflows. They emphasize the importance of maintaining human oversight while leveraging AI's capabilities to enhance content creation and practice management.

Listen in to learn:

• How AI tools like ChatGPT have revolutionized content creation and marketing
• Practical applications of AI for health practitioners, including SOAP note taking and meeting summaries
• How to overcome common hesitations about adopting AI tools
• Ways to maintain authenticity and personal connection while using AI
• The importance of proper prompting for compelling AI-generated content
• Strategies for using AI to emulate writing styles and create engaging content
• Tips for incorporating personal experiences into AI-generated content

Quotes:

• "It's a calculator for words... it's literally a language learning model." (3:10 | Mike)
• "AI has very practical applications to reduce the demand on your cognitive reserves." (7:25 | Uli)
• "You want to be specific in the prompt... I'm telling the AI, write direct response copy, make it short, punchy to the point." (17:45 | Mike)

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In this episode, Uli Iserloh and Mike Kim dive into the world of strategic social media for health and wellness practitioners. They discuss why many practitioners struggle to see returns on their social media efforts and offer practical advice on how to create a more effective social media presence.

Listen in to learn:

• Why many practitioners struggle with social media and how to overcome common challenges
• The shift from social graphs to interest graphs in social media algorithms
• The importance of creating content for discovery (Explore/For You pages) vs. nurturing existing followers
• How to use social media as a tool to build your email list and newsletter subscribers
• Strategies for creating engaging hooks and maintaining viewer retention in video content
• The value of consistency and how to set realistic goals for social media posting
• The importance of brand loyalty and reader loyalty in building a sustainable practice

Quotes:

• "Social media has changed from a social graph to an interest graph. The name of the game is to be interesting." (12:30 | Mike)
• "The hook on a video is really the subject line that we use for an email, and there's an art and a science to that." (15:45 | Mike)
• "What you really want to go after is not short-term social media monetization. I just don't even really think that's possible anymore. You need to shoot for loyalty." (20:10 | Mike)

Uli and Mike break down the ever-evolving landscape of social media and offer practical tips for health and wellness practitioners to improve conversion off social media onto their mailing list. They emphasize the importance of having a clear plan, understanding platform algorithms, and focusing on creating engaging content that hooks viewers from the start.

The hosts discuss the resurgence of newsletters as a valuable tool for nurturing deeper relationships with audiences and provide insights on how to use social media to drive newsletter subscriptions. They also touch on the importance of personalizing content and sharing aspects of your life and practice that AI cannot replicate.

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In this episode, Uli Iserloh sits down with Dr. Brian Mowll, founder and medical director of Sweet Life Diabetes Health Centers, to discuss the challenges and opportunities of transitioning from a brick-and-mortar practice to a virtual one.

Dr. Mowll shares his journey from running multiple chiropractic clinics to becoming America's Diabetes Coach and offers valuable insights for health practitioners looking to make a similar transition.

Listen in to learn:

• The motivations behind transitioning to a virtual practice
• Challenges of moving from in-person to remote care
• How to develop and market online programs
• The importance of niching down and becoming an expert in a specific area
• Strategies for lead generation and nurturing in a virtual practice
• The process of creating and refining online programs
• Balancing passion with market demand when choosing a specialization

Quotes:

• "If you're working with people across the country, and they're going to trust you, and they've never met you, I really do think building that expertise and that niche in one area helps quite a bit." (17:55 | Dr. Mowll)
• "I don't want to sell somebody my care on the phone. I want them to be asking for my help when we get on the phone." (31:20 | Dr. Mowll)
• "You need to at least take one big step as often as you possibly can as you're moving towards your goals." (41:00 | Dr. Mowll)

Dr. Mowll shares his personal journey of transitioning from multiple chiropractic clinics to a virtual functional medicine practice focused on diabetes. He discusses the mental shifts required, the importance of becoming an expert in a specific area, and the process of developing online programs that can be scaled.

The episode covers key aspects of building a virtual practice, including lead generation, nurturing prospects, and creating valuable content to establish trust and authority. Dr. Mowll emphasizes the importance of balancing market demand with personal passion when choosing a specialization.

Whether you're just starting out or looking to refine your virtual practice model, this episode offers practical advice on creating a more efficient and effective health and wellness practice.

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In this episode, Uli Iserloh and Mike Kim explore various care delivery models for health and wellness practices. They discuss the importance of creating systems that are easy, fun, and lucrative while delivering consistent results for patients.

Listen in to learn:

• The difference between an "ELF" business (Easy, Fun, Lucrative) and a "HALF" business (Hard, Annoying, Lame, Frustrating)
• Three main care delivery models: fee-for-service, programs/packages, and membership
• The pros and cons of each delivery model
• How to combine all three models for maximum effectiveness and patient value
• Why it's okay to want your business to be easier and more lucrative

Quotes:

• "Do you want to build an ELF business, or do you want to build a HALF business?" (4:30 | Uli, quoting Joe Polish)
• "Stop building systems around anomalies." (1:05 | Mike, quoting a successful entrepreneur)
• "If you hate selling, then the fee-for-service model is probably the worst, because you know, you have to sell each and every time, and it's exhausting." (7:45 | Uli)
• "The patient is the doctor of the future, as Sachin Patel says. It's not you as the clinician that magically has to deliver all the results." (16:10 | Uli)

Uli and Mike break down the three main care delivery models and explain how each can benefit both the practitioner and the patient. They highlight the limitations of the traditional fee-for-service model and emphasize the advantages of programs/packages and membership models for creating stable, recurring revenue and better patient outcomes.

The hosts recommend combining all three models to create a comprehensive care delivery system that makes it easy for new patients to get started while providing opportunities for long-term engagement and value. They outline a strategy for transitioning patients from initial fee-for-service appointments to programs and ultimately to a membership model.

This episode provides valuable insights for health and wellness practitioners looking to optimize their care delivery models, improve patient outcomes, and create more sustainable, enjoyable businesses.

Don't miss out on Uli and Mike's free 30-part series on starting a health and wellness business from scratch. Sign up at bigboost.marketing/smarter to gain valuable insights and strategies for growing your practice.

Whether you're just starting out or looking to refine your existing care delivery model, this episode offers practical advice on creating a more efficient and effective health and wellness practice.

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