Interdependence is at the heart of the work of the IDGs. Recognizing that this word came up all the time in our discussions about the Boston IDG Hub, we decided to record a conversation that explored the concept of interdependence in depth.

Brad, Toby and Max explore this concept through the different lenses that they all bring to this work. Brad is an expert on regenerative leadership and sustainability; his perspective on interdependence is grounded in a deep understanding of the natural world and living systems. Toby’s background is in journalism, civic engagement, and community building. And Max's background is in the fields of developmental psychology and leadership.

In this episode, we explore how all of these perspectives illuminate the concept of interdependence. We explore what we might learn about this phenomena from mycelia networks in the forest, what theories of human development have to say about interdependence, and how national service could play a role of helping citizens work skillfully with interdependence.

We hope you enjoy listening to the conversation as much as we enjoyed having it!

This episode lifts up the voice and expertise of Dr. Donna Hicks, one of the remarkable thought leaders based here in Boston who is helping to shape the IDG framework. She is an internationally renowned expert on the concept of dignity. She began her career in the field of conflict resolution, where she came to realize that dignity played an powerful but overlooked role in healing or perpetuating conflict. She went on to develop a model of dignity that is both theoretically rigorous and highly practical, and her work has grown to have a global impact.

In this conversation, she discusses her remarkable journey to developing her approach to dignity, what impact it has had in the world, and how it relates to the inner development goals.

For those looking for more information, here are a few links:

⁠Harvard Kennedy School Website⁠

⁠Dignity: It's Essential Role is Resolving Conflict⁠

⁠Leading with Dignity: How to Create a Culture that Brings out the Best in People⁠

⁠Facing the Truth Episode #1 one Youtube⁠

Inner Development Goals

This podcast is a project of the Boston IDG Hub. In this episode, you'll meet the three individuals leading this hub:

Dr. Max Klau is a leadership consultant, coach, author, and speaker who has spent his career bringing a focus on inner transformation to organizations seeking to address pressing public problems. Learn more about him at ⁠www.maxklau.com.⁠

Brad Piearce is a leadership consultant and coach, and is the founder of Regenerative Change Lab, a consulting practice that helps organizations integrate practices and principles of regenerative leadership into their work. He's also the host of another podcast, the Sustainability Mindset shift, that explores issues of sustainability. Learn more about Brad here:

⁠LinkedIn⁠

⁠Regenerative Change Lab⁠

⁠Sustainability Mindset Shift⁠

Toby Chaudhuri has spent his life working at the intersection of democracy and journalism. He’s been a Communications Director for a progressive political non-profit, a chief strategist for political campaigns, and a Strategic Communications Consultant for White House Race-Based initiatives during the Obama administration. He’s also served as the Vice President of Strategic Communications and National Partnerships for the Public Broadcasting Service. Learn more about Toby here:

⁠LinkedIn⁠

To learn more about the Inner Development Goals,⁠ click here. ⁠