In this episode of Out of Interest, we sit down with Mick Liubinskas, an entrepreneur, angel investor, climate tech advocate, and co-founder of Pollenizer and Climate Salad. Mick’s extensive experience in sustainability and innovation positions him as a leading voice in the climate tech space. He shares powerful insights on how individuals, businesses, and governments can make tangible changes to combat the climate crisis.

Mick addresses the ongoing environmental challenges, such as the impact of air pollution and plastics, and emphasizes the importance of small, everyday changes like reducing red meat consumption and using public transport. He stresses that while the human impact on climate change is significant, individual actions can contribute to larger systemic shifts.

When discussing electric cars, Mick explains that they are not the ultimate solution but are part of a broader movement towards sustainability. He highlights the need for technological advancements and affordable electric vehicles, particularly in Australia, to make a meaningful impact. Mick also points out the importance of making eco-friendly choices more accessible, acknowledging that it’s unrealistic to expect consumers to prioritize the environment if it comes at a high cost.

Looking ahead, Mick is optimistic about the future of energy, predicting that by the middle of the next decade, energy could be so cheap that it’s almost free. However, he cautions that getting there will require overcoming significant challenges. He also reveals some startling facts, such as the 140 liters of water required to make a single cup of coffee, reminding us of the hidden environmental costs behind our daily habits and the urgency to act.

Despite the overwhelming nature of the climate crisis, Mick remains hopeful, urging us to focus on solutions and to act now before the effects of climate change become irreversible. He emphasizes the power of consumers and employees to drive change, particularly by influencing companies that rely on fossil fuels. Drawing from the success of fixing the ozone layer, Mick believes that similar regulatory efforts can tackle today’s environmental issues.

Finally, Mick uses Kim Kardashian’s extravagant trip for a cheesecake as an example to discuss how the ultra-wealthy contribute disproportionately to pollution. Despite this, he argues that we all share the burden of its impact and that collective action is necessary.

This episode is packed with thought-provoking insights and actionable advice on how we can all play a part in creating a more sustainable future. Whether you're curious about climate tech or simply want to know what small steps you can take, this conversation with Mick will leave you both informed and inspired.

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