If you’re looking for an engaging way to grow your email list, connect with your ideal clients, and increase sales for your online programs, this episode is a must-listen! I’m joined by quiz expert Lindsay Roberts, who shares how therapists can use quizzes to attract qualified leads, nurture relationships, and boost program enrollments.

In this episode, we cover:

• What quizzes are and why they work well for therapists building online programs.
• Step-by-step strategies for designing effective quizzes, including topics, questions, and results pages.
• How quizzes compare to traditional opt-ins (like PDFs or meditations) and why they often achieve higher engagement.
• Examples of successful quizzes tailored for therapists and practical tips for creating your own, even if you're a beginner.
• How to use quizzes to segment your audience, personalize marketing, and drive more sales.
• Common pitfalls to avoid when designing quizzes to ensure optimal results.

Whether you’re new to quizzes or ready to create one, this episode is packed with insights and actionable advice to help you grow your online program.

Connect with Lindsay Roberts

• Email: lindsay@femfrontier.com
• Quiz Camp: Visit Here

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Links Mentioned in This Episode:

• Take the 2-minute Quiz to Find out if an Online Program is the Right Move for You and Your Practice
• Therapists Rising Website
• Dr. Hayley Kelly’s Instagram
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Have you launched an online program and wondered if there’s a way to maximize your income without overhauling what’s already working? You’re not alone! Many therapists are looking for simple, effective ways to increase revenue while still delivering powerful results.

In today’s episode, I’m sharing three easy strategies that can boost your program’s sales and enhance the client experience — all without changing the core of your offer. We’re diving into the world of order bumps, upsells, and VIP upgrades, breaking down exactly how they work and why they’re so effective.

Whether you’re new to these strategies or already considering them for your next launch, this episode is packed with practical tips to help you make more money from your online program in a sustainable, client-friendly way.

In this episode, I talk about:

• What order bumps, upsells, and VIP upgrades are — and why they work so well for therapists
• How to know if an add-on is truly a bonus or if it should be part of your core program
• Real-life examples, including price points, to help you implement each strategy in your own program
• How these add-ons boost revenue without compromising the integrity of your main offer

If you’re ready to make more from your online program and want a step-by-step guide to adding these strategies, make sure to tune in!

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Links mentioned in this episode:

• Therapists Rising Website
• Dr. Hayley Kelly’s Instagram
• Explore more episodes of the Therapists Rising podcast here

From Invisible to Invincible: Nichi Morrin’s Mission to Empower Those with Invisible Conditions

Have you ever felt unseen or misunderstood because of an invisible condition? Or perhaps you’re a therapist wondering how you can make a difference for clients who face unique, unseen challenges every day? In today’s episode, I’m sitting down with Nichi Morrin, a visionary clinical psychologist, entrepreneur, and fierce advocate for those living with invisible conditions.

Nichi is the founder of The Successful Zebra and creator of the Million Seen Movement, a campaign dedicated to reaching one million people who live with invisible illnesses, helping them feel seen, heard, and connected. She’s also the author of Girl, Get out of the Freaking Car!, a powerful guide that uses a life-changing metaphor to help women with invisible conditions reclaim their confidence and self-worth. A member of the Therapists Rising community, Nichi started her journey in our Incubator program and is now a valued mastermind member — she’s even been named our Student of the Month!

In this episode, Nichi shares her journey from psychologist to advocate, the metaphor that inspired her book, and her mission to make sustainable success a reality for those often overlooked. Whether you’re a therapist, a client, or someone looking for a dose of inspiration, this conversation is packed with insights into advocacy, self-confidence, and the power of being seen.

In this episode, we talk about:

• Nichi’s journey from teaching to psychology and advocacy for those with invisible conditions
• The Million Seen Movement and why Nichi’s committed to reaching one million people globally
• The life-changing metaphor behind Nichi’s book, Girl, Get out of the Freaking Car!
• How the Therapists Rising community has helped Nichi take intentional action toward her dreams
• Tips for therapists looking to serve clients with invisible conditions in impactful ways

If you’re interested in advocacy, personal growth, or finding ways to create sustainable change, this episode will leave you inspired and empowered.

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Links mentioned in this episode:

• Million Seen Movement on Facebook and Instagram
• The Successful Zebra Store
• Therapists Rising Website
• Dr. Hayley Kelly’s Instagram
• Explore more episodes of the Therapists Rising podcast here

Can an Online Program Really Be as Transformational as 1:1 Therapy?

Have you ever wondered if an online program could deliver the same depth of transformation as working 1:1 with a therapist? You’re not alone. Many therapists are hesitant to create online programs because they’re concerned that group or self-paced formats just won’t offer the same personal growth as individualized sessions.

In today’s mini episode, I’m unpacking the strengths and limitations of online programs, and exploring the question that so many of us have: Can an online program truly change lives the way 1:1 therapy can? I’ll dive into the unique benefits of online programs, from flexibility and accessibility to the power of community, and the opportunities they provide for clients to take ownership of their journey. We’ll also discuss the limitations and when 1:1 support is irreplaceable.

Whether you’re considering launching an online program or just curious about the potential impact, this episode will give you valuable insights into how online programs can complement traditional therapy work.

In this episode, I talk about:

• Why therapists are concerned about whether online programs can be as impactful as 1:1 support
• The unique benefits online programs bring, including flexibility and accessibility for clients with busy schedules
• How peer support and community can enhance growth, creating a powerful, shared experience for clients
• The empowering nature of self-directed growth in an online format and how it can foster lasting change
• When 1:1 support is still essential, especially for complex or highly individualized needs

If you’re thinking about adding an online program to your practice, tune in for a balanced look at the strengths and limits of this model and what it can bring to clients on their transformational journeys.

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Links mentioned in this episode:

• Therapists Rising Website
• Dr. Hayley Kelly’s Instagram

Marketing 101 for Therapists: Overcoming Common Hurdles to Build and Grow Your Online Program

Feeling overwhelmed by marketing? You’re not alone! Marketing can feel especially challenging for therapists who are used to connecting one-on-one and want to maintain values-aligned, ethical practices. That’s why I’m answering some of the most common marketing questions I get asked in this episode.

After the amazing response to our last Q&A episode (Episode 136: Social Media Tips for Therapists: How to Build Trust, Boost Engagement, and Sell Your Program), I knew it was time for another! In today’s episode, we’ll talk about why marketing doesn’t have to feel overwhelming, and how simple strategies can help you reach people who need your program without compromising your ethics.

So, if you’re ready to make marketing feel doable and aligned with your work as a therapist, this episode is for you!

Here’s what we’ll cover:

The Thought of Marketing Online Scares Me—Any Words of Wisdom?
Discover how to approach marketing as sharing your message rather than selling. I’ll walk you through starting small and focusing on authenticity, helping you feel confident and in control of your marketing.

How Did You Grow Your Audience for Therapists Rising?
I’ll share my journey of building Therapists Rising, from creating content that resonates to the pros and cons of hiring a VA. You’ll learn why it’s okay to start solo, and how slow, consistent growth is both effective and manageable.

Can I Promote My Online Program to Current or Past Clients?
We dive into the ethical considerations here, like maintaining boundaries and avoiding dual relationships. I’ll explain when a soft introduction might work and offer tips for promoting in a way that’s transparent and respectful.

Is a Mailing List Important if I Only Have One Online Program?
I’ll address why email lists remain one of the highest ROI marketing strategies. We’ll explore simple, effective ways to create value-filled emails and connect with your audience directly without feeling like you’re constantly promoting.

Should I Start a Facebook Group to Funnel People Into My Program?
Thinking about a Facebook group? I’ll walk you through the pros and cons, from community-building benefits to ethical boundaries. Plus, we’ll talk about what it really takes to get a group up and running successfully.

If marketing has ever felt daunting, my goal is to help you feel empowered, aligned, and ready to take action. Join me as we break it down into doable steps that fit your values as a therapist.

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• Instagram – Follow me for more marketing insights and updates!
• Listen to Episode 136: Social Media Tips for Therapists: How to Build Trust, Boost Engagement, and Sell Your Program

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Do you find yourself chasing new ideas all the time, only to leave them unfinished? If you’re a therapist looking to expand your practice, you might be battling a case of “too-many-idea-itis.” But there’s a simple antidote: F.O.C.U.S., or “Follow One Course Until Success.Are you caught up in “too-many-idea-itis”? If you’re constantly dreaming up new programs, courses, and membership ideas (and starting half of them!), you’re not alone. This “condition” may sound like a childhood diagnosis from Doc McStuffins, but it’s very real for therapists expanding their practices. Luckily, I’ve got the antidote: F.O.C.U.S., or “Follow One Course Until Success.”

In today’s episode, I’m sharing the journey of discovering F.O.C.U.S. and why it’s been life-changing. We’ll explore why therapists often fall into idea overload and how a little science and a lot of focus can help you finally see results. Plus, I’ll share some tough lessons I’ve learned firsthand from my own “too-many-idea-itis,” and how you can use F.O.C.U.S. to avoid the same pitfalls.

Whether you’re just getting started with your first online program or juggling several projects, this episode will help you ditch the overwhelm and commit to one powerful path to success.

In this episode, we’ll cover:

• What “too-many-idea-itis” is (and why Doc McStuffins may be onto something with these names)
• The dopamine hit from new ideas, and why it can leave us with a pile of unfinished projects
• The myth of multitasking, backed by research from Stanford and Dr. Daniel Levitin
• How to protect your limited energy as a therapist and invest it in one high-impact project
• Steps to follow the F.O.C.U.S. strategy and start seeing real results in your business

If you’re ready to say goodbye to idea overload and embrace a focused, productive path, this episode is for you!

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• Therapists Rising Website
• Dr. Hayley Kelly’s Instagram
• Explore more episodes of the Therapists Rising podcast here

Have you ever dreamt of running a retreat with your dream clients, in an exotic location, and creating a life-changing experience? You’re not alone—so many therapists are drawn to the idea of hosting retreats. But, before you dive in, let’s have an honest conversation about the realities of running retreats.

In today’s episode, I’m pulling back the curtain on the good, the bad, and everything no one tells you about running a retreat. I’ll also be sharing some key signs to look out for in your business to know if a retreat is the right fit for you.

Whether you’re dreaming about a retreat, or you’ve already started planning one, this episode is packed with the insights you need to make the best decision for your business.

In this episode, I talk about:

• Why retreats are so appealing to therapists and the common goals many have for running one
• The incredible impact and connection retreats offer, and why they can be so transformational for clients
• The logistical and financial challenges therapists don’t often see coming (and how to avoid them)
• The legal, ethical, and emotional complexities you need to be prepared for
• 5 key signs that your business is ready for a retreat (and how to know if it’s not)

If you’ve been thinking about adding retreats to your business model, make sure to tune in for this deep dive into the world of retreats and what it really takes to run one successfully.

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• Therapists Rising Website
• Dr. Hayley Kelly’s Instagram
• Explore more episodes of the Therapists Rising podcast here

You’ve been running your business solo, handling every task yourself—but now you’re ready to take the next big step: building a team. In today’s episode, I’m pulling back the curtain on my hiring journey in a special “Unmasked Monthly Musing” episode.

From the first hire to learning how to let go of control, I’m sharing all the behind-the-scenes details of what worked, what didn’t, and the lessons I wish I’d known sooner. Whether you’re making your first hire or looking to scale your team, this episode is packed with real, actionable insights to help you grow your business with confidence.

In this episode, I talk about:

• (3:12) Why I transitioned from working with contractors to employees and how that decision impacted my business
• (6:45) How I figured out my best first hire (spoiler: it was a game-changer!)
• (10:17) The pros and cons of working with contractors vs. hiring employees
• (14:33) The unexpected bumps and challenges I faced with a paid team
• (18:25) What I would do differently to better support my team and my own growth as a leader
• (22:10) My top tips for hiring your first team member

If you’re an entrepreneur ready to grow your team and scale your business, this episode is for you! I’m sharing what I’ve learned about hiring, leadership, and why it’s okay to make mistakes as you grow.

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Links mentioned in this episode:

• Connect with me on Instagram @dr.hayleykelly
• Listen to past episodes of Therapists Rising here therapistsrising.com/podcast