Have you ever wondered what makes a leader in the cyber security world? Dive into a robust discussion with our insightful guests - Natalie, August, and Hollis - where we tackle the burning question. We uncover August's journey from being a sock operator to a mentor focused on unlocking leadership potential in entry-level recruits. His new show brings a refreshing perspective on maintaining talent.

This episode doesn't stop there. We also address the complicated issue of micromanagement in IT, questioning the outdated nine-to-five culture. With Natalie's expertise on IT management, we share untold stories of the challenges faced in the industry. We further explore the need for regular breaks to boost productivity and address mental strain, breaking the stereotype of the constant grind.

In the concluding segments, we delve into the intriguing role AI and machine learning play in security products. We untangle the knots of leadership, management, and mentorship in cyber and IT space. The conversation shifts to the perspective on certifications, their value and challenges. And finally, we underscore the fundamental aspect of every workplace – recognizing and appreciating employees. We close the loop by discussing the importance of competitive pay for junior security analysts and fostering an environment of love and support. So, brace yourselves for a rollercoaster of insights that is certain to stir your thoughts and ignite conversations.

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