In this episode, Dr. Tay interviews Kaley Stymeist about "Spell to Communicate" (S2C), a method used to support non-speaking autistic children in expressing themselves. Kaley shares her journey with her son Hudson, who is progressing his communication through S2C after language regression. The discussion covers the methodology of S2C, emphasizing its neurodiversity-affirming approach and the importance of motor planning. Kaley also addresses common misconceptions and the need for structured training. Listeners learn where to find S2C practitioners and how to get started.

00:00 Introduction to Spell to Communicate

00:42 Meet Kaley Stymeist

01:03 Dr. Tay's Background and Podcast Mission

02:20 Kaley's Family and Autism Journey

03:07 Hudson's Birth and Early Challenges

06:49 Discovering Spell to Communicate

15:38 Hudson's Progress and Motor Planning

25:32 Starting with Presuming Competence

25:50 Introduction to Three Letter Boards

26:16 Transition to 26 Letter Boards

26:54 The Importance of Prompting

28:32 Building Motor Control and Accuracy

30:08 Progressing to Open Communication

33:18 The Goal of Spell to Communicate

39:09 Addressing Concerns and Misconceptions

44:50 Finding a Practitioner and Training

47:07 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

RESOURCES

⚡️ connect with Kaley on Instagram @kaley_and_3 and learn more about her S2C practice @autismsoulspeak

⚡️ find a local S2C practitioner >> https://i-asc.org/

⚡️ want to learn more about Dr. Tay's Whole Family Approach and current services offered? visit drtaylorday.com

⚡️ join the Evolve Facebook community to participate in the episode Q+As >> facebook.com/groups/evolveautism

⚡️ learn from me and submit your questions [could be featured on a future episode] >>

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*please note: in this episode, many terminologies and phrases are used to describe autism. Dr. Tay honors what each child and family prefers, and intentionally chooses to use affirming and identity-first language after listening to autistic adults and their preferences. various guests on the podcast are likely to use the language that they have been exposed to the most.

Dr. Tay shares a mini-episode where she dives into the complexities and controversies surrounding Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA) therapy in the autism field. She presents a balanced perspective on ABA, emphasizing the importance of informed consent and considering the diverse needs and privileges of families. Dr. Tay also highlights different neurodiversity affirming modalities under the ABA umbrella, upcoming podcast guests, and her own experiences, urging the need for more nuanced conversations in the field.

00:00 Introduction and Personal Update

00:52 Welcome to the Parenting Space

01:05 Diving into ABA Therapy

01:22 Controversies and Perspectives on ABA

01:41 Upcoming Podcast Guests and Topics

04:55 Informed Decision-Making for Families

05:42 Advocating for Neurodiversity Affirming Practices

07:06 Changing the Field from the Inside Out

08:55 Accessibility Issues in Neurodiversity Affirming Therapy

09:18 Challenges in Child Care for Working Parents

10:02 Intersectionality and Racial Perspectives in ABA

11:05 Safety and Compliance for Non-White Children

12:08 Balancing Family Needs and Therapy Approaches

12:43 Open Dialogue and Future Conversations

13:34 Supporting Families Through Free Resources and Memberships

14:47 Encouraging Informed Consent and Advocacy

15:37 Conclusion and Future Episodes

RESOURCES

⚡️ listen to episodes 26, 59, and 128, which further discuss ABA and varying approaches. and check out the Making the Shift episode on ABA that inspired this episode!

⚡️ learn from me and submit your questions [could be featured on a future episode] >>

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DISCLAIMER >> anything shared on this podcast should not be considered clinical advice, and you should consult with your team of medical, mental health, and developmental providers if you need support.

ABOUT THIS EPISODE (+ scroll for resources) 👇

In this episode, Dr. Tay welcomes Rob Gorski, known as The Autism Dad on social media, to discuss his experience as a father raising three autistic children. They explore the unique challenges and opportunities of fatherhood in the autism community, the grief process associated with diagnoses, and the importance of leaning into emotions. Rob shares his journey of starting a blog, the evolving support needs of his children, and the importance of self-care and mental health for parents. They also discuss the societal expectations for dads and the need for more inclusive and supportive conversations around fatherhood and autism.

00:00 Introduction and Today's Special Guest

00:58 Dr. Tay's Background and Podcast Mission

02:01 Rob Gorski's Family and Autism Journey

03:22 Challenges and Insights on Autism Diagnoses

08:48 Support Needs and Progress of Rob's Children

12:42 Navigating Parenting and Personal Challenges

13:39 The Role of Dads in Autism Parenting

18:05 Emotional Struggles and Mental Health

28:38 Understanding the Impact of Parental Emotions

29:34 Embracing Imperfection in Parenting

31:10 Navigating Social Media and External Judgments

32:54 The Importance of Repair and Recovery

34:50 Challenging Parenting Norms and Expectations

39:03 Advocating for Your Child's Needs

44:06 The Power of Vulnerability and Self-Care

48:33 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

RESOURCES

⚡️ connect with Rob on Instagram @theautismdad and on his website

⚡️ listen to our recent episode on Rob's podcast about autism in girls

⚡️ want to learn more about Dr. Tay's Whole Family Approach and current services offered? visit drtaylorday.com

⚡️ join the Evolve Facebook community to participate in the episode Q+As >> facebook.com/groups/evolveautism

⚡️ learn from me and submit your questions [could be featured on a future episode] >>

Instagram @the.dr.tay

TikTok @the.dr.tay

LinkedIn @the-dr-tay

*please note: in this episode, many terminologies and phrases are used to describe autism. Dr. Tay honors what each child and family prefers, and intentionally chooses to use affirming and identity-first language after listening to autistic adults and their preferences. various guests on the podcast are likely to use the language they have been exposed to the most.