Jordi Llonch Esteve
Head of Growth
Satlantis
https://satlantis.io/

Jordi Llonch Esteve is a lifelong nomad, entrepreneur, and passionate advocate for freedom technologies. After traveling over 50 cities as an airline pilot, he transitioned into entrepreneurship and innovation, helping hundreds of entrepreneurs grow their startups each year. Today, he leads growth at Satlantis.io, a social network built for frequent travelers and digital nomads. Satlantis empowers users to discover their next destination, connect with like-minded nomads, and navigate the world with digital freedom, no centralized platforms needed.

Summary

In this episode, Jason Elkins interviews Jordi Llonch, the head of growth for Satlantis, a social network designed for frequent travelers. Jordi shares his journey from being an airline pilot to transitioning into the startup world, discussing the challenges faced in the airline industry and the exciting yet exhausting life of startups. The conversation highlights the importance of community and connection for digital nomads, as well as the unique features of the Satlantis app that cater to travelers seeking like-minded individuals. Jordi emphasizes the significance of digital ownership and the future of social networking for freedom seekers.

Takeaways

• Satlantis is a social network for frequent travelers.
• Jordi transitioned from being an airline pilot to working in startups.
• The airline industry faced significant challenges during the economic crisis.
• Startup life is akin to jumping off a cliff and building a plane before hitting the ground.
• Community and connection are vital for digital nomads and travelers.
• Satlantis offers a unique platform for like-minded individuals to connect.
• The app focuses on user-generated content and personalized experiences.
• Users can create collections of recommended places and events.
• The platform is free to use, with monetization options for event organizers.
• Digital ownership and control over social connections are emphasized.

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Dolores Gangotena
Founder
Quasar Expeditions

My husband and myself founded Quasar Expeditions in 1986. Up to then, my life had been filled with several experiences in the Galapagos Islands. My first trip was in 1969 when there was no airport and navigations had to be done from Guayaquil. My first experience visiting Galapagos, still quite young, in the company of a biology teacher and 5 friends truly changed my life. It is since we founded the company that my professional life saw a big turn and suddenly I had to become part of the hospitality department, the human resources department, biology and naturalist guides department, the marketing and sales department which if all different gave me a view of what the business was all about from scratch. It is probably this experience that have helped us create our safari cruises that create an incredible memory in all of our guests.

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In this episode, Dolores Gangotena, founder of Quasar Expeditions, shares her journey from her first trip to the Galapagos at 17 to establishing a successful eco-tourism company. She discusses the importance of sustainable tourism, the challenges of operating in the Galapagos, and the need for regulations to protect the islands. Dolores emphasizes the value of local experiences and the role of naturalists in enhancing the travel experience. She also addresses common misconceptions about safety in Latin America and encourages travelers to explore the beauty of the region.

takeaways

• Dolores's first trip to the Galapagos sparked her passion for eco-tourism.
• Quasar Expeditions focuses on small group experiences in the Galapagos.
• The company has expanded to offer services in continental Ecuador and beyond.
• Sustainable tourism is crucial for preserving the Galapagos.
• Local operations enhance the travel experience and support the community.
• Travel agencies are increasingly working directly with Quasar Expeditions.
• The importance of targeting the English-speaking market for tourism.
• Group dynamics can impact the travel experience in the Galapagos.
• Tourism has evolved, affecting wildlife interactions in the islands.
• Regulations are necessary to manage the growing number of visitors.

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Charles Odom
Founder
Painted Circle Travel Guide

Charles is a supporter of the sustainable travel movement through his platform Painted Circle. He has a degree in International Development and has worked in tourism since 2008. Starting his travel career in Germany, he is now working with travel companies around the world to build an ethical travel platform that helps travelers explore more intentionally and with a more positive impact.

summary
In this episode, Charles Odom, founder of Painted Circle, shares his journey from a childhood filled with travel experiences to creating a platform that promotes ethical and sustainable tourism. He discusses the importance of supporting local businesses and the impact of travel on personal growth and community development. Charles emphasizes the need for transparency in the travel industry and how Painted Circle aims to connect travelers directly with purpose-driven tour operators, ultimately fostering a more equitable tourism ecosystem.

takeaways

• Travel can be a powerful tool for personal growth.
• Supporting local businesses enhances the travel experience.
• Ethical travel is about making conscious choices.
• Traveling helps us connect with diverse cultures.
• Transparency in the travel industry is crucial.
• Painted Circle aims to redefine how we book travel.
• Travel should prioritize community impact over profits.
• Experiences are more valuable than material possessions.
• The travel industry can lead in social justice initiatives.
• We can create a better world through responsible tourism.

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Ami Jones
CEO & Founder
TerraFauna Journeys

Ami Jones is a seasoned travel professional, passionate conservationist, and respected leader in sustainable tourism with over 15 years of experience designing and guiding meaningful journeys across the globe. Her path began in 2008 in Placencia, Belize—an early spark that ignited a lifelong commitment to using travel as a force for good.

Since then, Ami has held key roles in both for-profit and nonprofit sectors spanning student travel, wellness, educational tourism, and conservation. She has led innovative sustainability initiatives—including the development of pioneering low-impact travel models—and helped shape strategies that prioritize environmental stewardship and community empowerment. Her work has taken her from the Arctic tundra to the Brazilian Amazon, always rooted in deep partnerships with local people and places.

In 2025, Ami founded TerraFauna Journeys to bring that mission to life. With a bold vision to inspire conservation, one journey at a time, she leads the company committed to reconnecting travelers with the natural world—while directly supporting the people and ecosystems that make each destination extraordinary.

Her belief is simple but powerful: when done thoughtfully, travel can change lives and help protect our planet for future generations.

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In this episode of the Big World Made Small podcast, host Jason Elkins speaks with Ami Jones, CEO and founder of TerraFauna Journeys, a conservation-focused travel company. They discuss Ami's background, her family's influence on her passion for conservation, and the importance of meaningful travel experiences. The conversation delves into the impact of tourism on local communities and the environment, the misconceptions surrounding travel destinations, and the mission of TerraFauna to inspire conservation through travel. Ami emphasizes the need for ethical tourism practices and the importance of listening to both travelers and local communities to create impactful experiences. The episode concludes with a call to action for listeners to engage with TerraFauna and contribute to conservation efforts.

takeaways

• TerraFauna Journeys aims to inspire conservation through travel.
• Ami's childhood experiences with National Geographic sparked her curiosity about the planet.
• Conservation perspectives can vary greatly based on cultural backgrounds.
• Travel experiences shape our understanding of the world and its challenges.
• Mass tourism can serve as a gateway to more meaningful travel experiences.
• Cultural misconceptions often arise from a lack of firsthand experience.
• Ethical tourism requires listening to local communities and understanding their needs.
• Luxury travel is being redefined to mean access to unique experiences.
• Community engagement is crucial for successful conservation efforts.
• Travel can be a powerful tool for personal growth and global understanding.

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Trish Sare
Founder/Owner
BikeHike Adventures
https://www.bikehike.com/

Trish Sare is a passionate adventurer, cultural connector, and founder of BikeHike Adventures, a pioneering travel company that has been curating unforgettable active journeys around the world for over three decades. With a deep love for meaningful travel and cross-cultural experiences, Trish has guided travelers through remote corners of the globe—always with a bike, a pair of hiking boots, and an open heart. Her mission is simple but powerful: to connect the world through active, immersive, and soul-stirring adventures. Trish joins us today to share stories from the road, insights on sustainable travel, and how transformative travel can shape our lives.

summary

In this episode of the Big World Made Small podcast, host Jason Elkins speaks with Trish Sare, founder of BikeHike Adventures. They discuss the evolution of adventure travel, the shift towards custom trips, and the importance of local guides in providing authentic experiences. Trish shares her personal journey into the travel industry, the growing significance of culinary experiences, and the challenges of overtourism. The conversation highlights the need for sustainable travel practices and the joy of connecting with local cultures.

takeaways

• BikeHike Adventures focuses on active experience travel.
• The shift to custom trips has increased since the pandemic.
• Local guides enhance the travel experience by providing authentic insights.
• Culinary experiences have become a significant part of travel itineraries.
• Trish's personal journey into travel was influenced by her mother's wish to explore the world.
• Travelers are increasingly seeking unique, personalized experiences.
• Sustainable travel practices are essential to preserve local cultures.
• Overtourism is impacting many popular destinations, leading to a loss of authenticity.
• Adventure travel is evolving to cater to an aging demographic.
• Connecting with local cultures enriches the travel experience.

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Chris Torres
Director
The Marketing Coach & Tourprenuer

I started at 16 illustrating children’s books and never looked back.

After that, I spent years learning on the job—working in design studios and marketing agencies as an art-worker, designer, web developer, and eventually a marketing strategist.

I didn’t go to university. Truth is, I hated school. I was told I’d never amount to much. That doubt didn’t discourage me—it fuelled me. I’ve spent my whole career proving people wrong, building a path on grit, self-teaching, and real-world results.

In 2008, I launched a marketing agency from scratch and built it into a global force, working with travel brands and service-based businesses in over 50+ countries. The Tourism Marketing Agency still thrives today.

A huge middle finger to all those teachers that did not believe in me.

Along the way, I’ve helped launch products, crack new markets, and grow small, local businesses into major players. My approach blends storytelling with data, creativity with clarity—making sure your marketing connects emotionally and converts commercially.

You won’t get recycled “funnel hacks” or empty jargon here. What I offer is real-world strategy that delivers. That’s how we helped Gray Line Iceland generate €2M+ in direct bookings. Overland Ireland? Another €2M and a 6000% ROI. And in the wilds of Alaska, a remote operator saw a 463% sales increase year-on-year using the same methods.

My deep sector knowledge, especially in travel and tourism, comes from nearly two decades of hands-on work. Tour operators, DMCs, travel tech firms, hotels—I’ve helped them all refine their messaging, attract the right customers, and grow sustainably.

I’m also part-owner of Tourpreneur, the global community of nearly 20,000 tour operators. I contribute regularly to the podcast and help lead the charge on educational content, mentorship, and strategy guidance for operators looking to level up. Whether it’s through speaking, writing, or behind-the-scenes coaching, my goal is always to help people in this industry thrive.

I also wrote the book How to Turn Your Online Lookers into Bookers, with a follow-up now published: Lookers into Bookers: The Tourism Marketing Blueprint. I speak at tourism events worldwide, running practical workshops that give attendees tools they can use the next day.

summary

In this episode, Jason Elkins interviews Chris Torres, a marketing coach specializing in the tourism industry. They discuss the importance of direct bookings for tour operators, the journey of Chris from art to marketing, and the significance of storytelling in tourism. Chris shares insights on building trust through personal connections, the role of video content, and the impact of reviews and social proof. They also explore the future of marketing with AI, the importance of community support, and advice for aspiring tour operators. Chris introduces his Strategy Builder tool, designed to help operators create effective marketing strategies.

takeaways

• Chris Torres emphasizes the importance of direct bookings for tour operators.
• The journey into marketing often starts from a creative background.
• Niche focus can lead to greater success in the tourism industry.
• Delegation is key for tour operators to focus on what they love.
• Understanding the needs of tour operators is crucial for effective marketing.
• Storytelling enhances the customer experience in tourism.
• Video content is a powerful tool for engagement.

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Founder & Creative Director

Goddess Retreats

Chelsea Ross is the founder of Goddess Retreats, a pioneering women’s wellness and adventure travel company that began in 2003. With over 23 years of experience leading transformative retreats around the world, Chelsea is passionate about creating spaces where women can reconnect with themselves through nature, culture, and meaningful exploration. Her work blends a deep commitment to holistic well-being with a love for adventure, inspiring thousands of women to step into their power, embrace the unknown, and travel with purpose.

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In this conversation, Chelsea Ross, founder of Goddess Retreats, shares her journey of creating a women's only wellness retreat that focuses on surfing, personal development, and empowerment. She discusses the evolution of surfing, the importance of creating a supportive environment for women, and how retreats can lead to significant life changes. Chelsea emphasizes the need for connection, vulnerability, and authenticity in personal development, and highlights the unique experiences that women can have when they come together in a nurturing space. The conversation also touches on the future of retreats, including plans for men's retreats, and the importance of courage and discipline in pursuing one's passions.

takeaways

• Goddess Retreats focuses on women's empowerment through surfing and wellness.
• The evolution of surfing has made it more accessible to women.
• Creating a supportive environment allows women to focus on themselves.
• Connection and vulnerability are key components of the retreat experience.
• Breaking stereotypes is essential for women's empowerment in sports.
• Personal development is intertwined with the retreat experience.
• Self-care and balance are crucial for women in today's world.
• Experiencing challenges during retreats leads to personal growth.
• Many women return to the retreats with family members or friends.
• Courage and discipline are vital for pursuing passions.

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Sharyn Means
CEO
Doves Rest Cabins

“I’m Sharyn Means, CEO of Doves Rest Cabins. I am the creator of the Kia Oro customer service brand that develops a culture of excellence, powered by staff that can anticipate customer needs, exceed expectations, create goodwill and make it all feel seamless.”

“Born and raised on the remote Island of New Zealand, I learned at a young age to stand on my own two feet, how to do things myself, or find an alternative solution to the issue. My entire career has been in project management, overlapping into hospitality and customer service.”

“My passion for natural beauty led me to Palo Duro Canyon and Doves Rest Cabins where I excel at instilling a devotion to great service while providing tools, skills, freedom and rendering assistance to my staff to make our customers feel special. I am proud to represent my New Zealand heritage here in America by showing my true Kia Oro spirit that is grounded in respect, generosity, and kindness.”

“When I’m not crafting marketing plans, instilling shared values, celebrating great performances, leading by example, you can find me in the arms of my Texan husband, or eating a protein bar”.

summary

In this episode of the Big World Made Small podcast, Jason Elkins interviews Sharyn Means, CEO of Doves Rest Cabins, located on the rim of Palo Duro Canyon. Sharyn shares her unique journey from New Zealand to the U.S. and how her background in construction and project management has shaped her approach to hospitality. The conversation explores the various activities available at Doves Rest, the importance of creating a welcoming environment for guests, and the challenges of scaling a hospitality business. Sharyn emphasizes the significance of listening to guests and staff, the natural beauty of the area, and the philosophy of disconnecting to reconnect with nature and oneself.

takeaways

• Doves Rest Cabins offers a unique blend of luxury and nature.
• Sharyn's journey from New Zealand to the U.S. shaped her hospitality approach.
• The importance of logistics in running a hospitality business.
• Creating a welcoming environment is key to guest satisfaction.
• Listening to guests and staff is crucial for success.
• Nature and wildlife play a significant role in the guest experience.
• Training staff involves hands-on experience and personal interaction.
• Scaling a hospitality business requires strong processes and systems.
• Guests often have common concerns about amenities and services.
• Disconnecting from daily life allows for reconnection with nature and oneself.

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