Tony Thorne

Managing Director

Wilderness Explorers

https://adventuretravelmarketing.com/guest/tony-thorne/

Tony Thorne first visited Guyana in 1988 as a Project Leader with Operation Raleigh and loved the adventure and rawness of the country. He returned in 1991 to watch the West Indians and Australians battle out a test match at Bourda Cricket Ground and decided to stay and accept a position to manage Timberhead Rainforest Resort. In 1994, when he started Wilderness Explorers, tourism was still mostly undeveloped, and the company took on the challenge of marketing Guyana internationally.

Tony was the first President of the Tourism and Hospitality Association of Guyana in 1991 and served for numerous years on the board in various positions including Vice President. Over the years he has travelled extensively throughout Guyana and also the neighbouring countries to find suitable properties, locations and communities to work within developing tourism to the region. After all these years he still marvels at the majesty of Kaieteur Falls and its pristine environment. Tony enjoys great satisfaction in working with local communities developing their tourism products.

summary
In this episode, Tony Thorne, managing director of Wilderness Explorers, shares his adventurous journey from joining the army to establishing a successful tourism business in Guyana. He discusses the evolution of tourism in Guyana, the importance of indigenous communities in sustainable tourism, and the economic transformation of the country due to newfound oil resources. Tony emphasizes the significance of preserving the rainforest and the role of tourism in supporting local communities.

takeaways

• Tony's journey began with a desire for adventure, leading him to join the army.
• Wilderness Explorers focuses on creating seamless travel experiences in Guyana.
• The tourism industry in Guyana is evolving, with a focus on sustainability.
• Indigenous communities play a crucial role in the tourism model in Guyana.
• Tony helped establish the Tourism Association of Guyana to promote the industry.
• Guyana's unique cultural makeup surprises many visitors.
• The country is now experiencing economic growth due to oil discoveries.
• Sustainable tourism helps preserve the rainforest and supports local communities.
• Tourism in Guyana offers opportunities for adventure and wildlife experiences.
• Tony's story illustrates the importance of adaptability and persistence in business.

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Dorothea Hochleitner
Extreme Solo Bicycle Traveler
IG @doro.on.the.go
https://adventuretravelmarketing.com/guest/dorothea-hochleitner/

Dorothea from Austria was a police officer for nearly twelve years before she decided to swap her stable job for exploring the world. She has now been on the road for more than two and a half years – first backpacking for 15 months through Southeast Asia and India, before switching the backpack to a bicycle in September 2024 and starting to cycle towards India again. Starting in Austria, she rode through 11 countries until Georgia, then decided to fly to New Delhi because of security concerns around crossing either Russia or Iran. From Delhi she headed north into the Himalayas, where she faced high altitude and harsh weather conditions – but also the kindness of locals who took her in like family and allowed her to deeply connect with the culture.

Dorothea shares her story because she wants to show other women that they can trust their intuition, take space for themselves, and build a life that feels true to them – even if it means stepping outside the comfort zone first.

Summary

In this episode of the Big World Made Small podcast, host Jason Elkins speaks with Dorothea Hochleitner, who shares her transformative journey from being a police officer in Vienna to becoming a world traveler. Dorothea discusses her decision to leave her stable job, the challenges and joys of solo travel, and the importance of following one's gut feeling. She reflects on her experiences in various countries, the lessons learned from her travels, and the impact of meditation on her personal growth. Dorothea also emphasizes the importance of inspiring others, especially women, to pursue their dreams and create their own paths in life.

Takeaways

• Dorothea left her job as a police officer to travel the world.
• She initially backpacked through Southeast Asia and India before cycling.
• Her trip to Panama sparked her desire to explore more.
• Traveling solo allows for deep self-reflection and personal growth.
• It's important to follow your gut feeling when making life decisions.
• Travel can be a way to escape but doesn't solve all problems.
• Finding joy in everyday experiences is more fulfilling than ticking off bucket lists.
• Social media can create pressure to conform to travel expectations.
• Meditation can help in understanding oneself better.
• You can create your own life and inspire others to do the same.

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Vaibhav Kala

Founder

Aquaterra Adventures

https://adventuretravelmarketing.com/guest/vaibhav-kala/

Vaibhav has guided experiences from Morocco to the Inca trail, from the Colorado to the Yangtze, from the Futaleufu to Aconcagua, Ahansel to the Zambezi and from Kilimanjaro to the Everest trail. His leadership and expertise in both mountain and river environments, safety, risk management, knowledge, and impeccable planning has been the mainstay of the globally acknowledged Aquaterra Adventures. Vaibhav has opened many Himalayan trips to adventure tourism and his outfit is the only Indian adventure company on the 2008 & 2009 list of the BEST ADVENTURE TRAVEL COMPANIES ON EARTH, rated by the National Geographic Society. Having guided for 33 years in the adventure tourism industry, with many firsts to his name, his contributions have helped bring many rural regions to international tourism while unlocking the latent potential of youth not only through employment, but by training and imparting the ethos of being proud of ones’ origins. His work with governments involves crafting policies and nuances for adventure tourism to make it safer, responsible and more sustainable. Today, Vaibhav showcases a sustainable adventure tourism model that brings together culture, community, environment, health and wellness coupled with adventure, excitement and thrill improving lives and livelihoods through fun, grit, pride and purpose.

Summary

In this episode, Jason Elkins welcomes back Vaibhav Kala, founder of Aquaterra Adventures, to discuss the evolution of adventure travel in India. Bipav shares his journey from a chemistry student to a leading figure in the adventure tourism industry, emphasizing the importance of resilience and adaptability. The conversation explores the challenges of over-tourism, the need for sustainable practices, and the future of adventure travel, highlighting the untouched beauty of India's landscapes. Vaibhav also discusses the changing demographics of travelers and the impact of technology on the industry, advocating for a more responsible approach to adventure tourism.

Takeaways

• Aquaterra Adventures focuses on 'limbs and lungs' travel, emphasizing human-powered activities.
• Vaibhav's journey into adventure travel began with guiding river trips at a young age.
• Childhood experiences in a military family fostered resilience and adaptability.
• The adventure travel industry in India has evolved significantly over the past 30 years.
• Over-tourism poses a significant threat to the sustainability of adventure travel.
• The importance of setting expectations for travelers has increased with changing demographics.
• India offers untouched areas that are still open for exploration and adventure.
• The future of adventure travel lies in small group experiences in remote locations.
• Discerning travelers are becoming more aware of safety and environmental impacts.

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Purvi Shah

Head of Sustainability and Senior Travel Planner

Kampur Travel Diaries

https://adventuretravelmarketing.com/guest/purvi-shah/

Purvi’s passion for travel was fuelled from the road trips and visits to national parks around Kenya with her family as a child. Some of her earliest memories are watching elephants at a salt lick in the Aberdares. During her university years, she travelled extensively around Europe, USA, South America and Australia, but there was always a great pull to return home. Her soul would always be in Africa. Her passion is to get you to feel the beautiful energy that makes up the diverse countries of Africa so special. She is a qualified tour consultant and specialises in the little details that make your safari exceptional.

Summary

In this episode of the Big World Made Small podcast, host Jason Elkins speaks with Purvi Shah, head of sustainability and senior travel planner for Kampur Travel Diaries. They discuss Purvi's unique background as a third or fourth generation Kenyan of Indian descent, her childhood experiences in Nairobi, and how these shaped her passion for wildlife and conservation. Purvi emphasizes the importance of local knowledge in crafting bespoke safari experiences that not only cater to tourists but also benefit local communities. The conversation touches on the challenges of wildlife tourism in Kenya, the significance of trust in travel arrangements, and the future of sustainable tourism. Purvi shares insights on the hospitality of Kenyans and the need for a deeper connection between travelers and the local culture, ultimately highlighting the importance of creating meaningful travel experiences that contribute positively to both wildlife conservation and community development.

Takeaways

• Purvi Shah emphasizes the importance of conversations in making the world smaller.
• Kampur Travel Diaries focuses on bespoke safaris that contribute to local communities.
• Growing up near Mount Kenya shaped Purvi's love for nature and wildlife.
• Experiencing wildlife as a child made Purvi aware of her privilege compared to international tourists.
• Information overload can mislead travelers about safari experiences.
• Local knowledge is crucial for creating meaningful travel itineraries.
• Kenya's wildlife tourism is often inaccessible to local communities due to high costs.
• The hospitality of Kenyans is a significant aspect of the travel experience.
• Sustainable tourism should prioritize both wildlife conservation and community development.

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Leigh Barnes

President of the Americas

Intrepid Travel

https://adventuretravelmarketing.com/guest/leigh-barnes/

Leigh has recently stepped into a new role as President of Americas, where he will oversee Intrepid’s expansion into the USA, the company’s fastest growing market. Leigh will manage direct, industry and white label sales as well as operations across North, Central and South America. Previously Chief Purpose Officer and then Chief Customer Officer, he’s been instrumental in building Intrepid’s reputation as a purpose-led, customer-focussed organisation. Outside of work, Leigh’s an avid supporter of local arts scenes and a keen ocean swimmer - even in the frosty Pacific Northwest where he is based.

Leigh's top Intrepid trip is Everest Base Camp Trek, which he credits for changing the way he sees the world.

Summary

In this episode, Jason Elkins speaks with Leigh Barnes, the President of the Americas for Intrepid Travel. They discuss the essence of Intrepid Travel, focusing on sustainable travel and community impact. Lee shares his personal journey from working at Intrepid to his transformative experiences traveling the world. He reflects on his upbringing in Australia, the challenges he faced while living in the UK, and how these experiences shaped his career and personal growth. The conversation also touches on the importance of travel in understanding oneself and the world, as well as the exciting developments at Intrepid Travel.

Takeaways

• Intrepid Travel focuses on sustainable experiences and community impact.
• Traveling in the UK was a formative experience for Lee.
• Leigh's role at Intrepid has evolved over 15 years.
• The importance of storytelling and personal responsibility in travel.
• AI presents new opportunities in the travel industry.
• Intrepid aims to create more intrepid travelers in the Americas.
• Travel is a way to learn about oneself and the world.

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Mariam Khuberashvili

Product Supervisor

Magic Roads Georgia

https://adventuretravelmarketing.com/guest/mariam-khuberashvili/

Mariam is an experienced tour guide and product manager with deep expertise in the Caucasus region, particularly in her home country, Georgia. She currently serves as Product Manager at Magic Roads Georgia, where she designs and develops unique travel experiences across Georgia and the wider Caucasus. With her background in guiding and her passion for cultural discovery, Mariam brings an authentic and insightful perspective to every journey she creates.

Summary

In this episode, Jason Elkins speaks with Mariam Khuberashvili, a product supervisor at Magic Roads, Georgia. They explore Mariam's journey from growing up in Georgia, the impact of the Soviet Union on Georgian identity, and the rich cultural heritage of Georgia, particularly its wine-making traditions. Mariam shares her experiences in the tourism industry, the influence of foreign teachers, and the unique aspects of Georgian cuisine, including cha-cha and tatara. The conversation highlights the safety and hospitality of Georgia, as well as the pride Georgians have in their culture and history.

Takeaways

• Georgia is known as the birthplace of wine, with a history of 8,000 years.
• The Soviet Union attempted to erase Georgian identity, impacting language and culture.
• Generational divides exist in perceptions of the Soviet era and modern Georgia.
• Tourism has played a significant role in shaping Mariam's career and identity.
• Foreign teachers had a profound impact on the English language skills of Georgian youth.
• Wine is a central part of Georgian culture, with families often making their own.
• Cha-cha is a traditional Georgian spirit made from fermented grape skins.
• Tatara is a unique Georgian candy made from grape juice and flour.
• Georgia is considered one of the safest countries for travelers.
• Georgians take pride in their culture and are eager to share it with visitors.

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Danielle Finch

Founder & CEO

Equera

https://adventuretravelmarketing.com/guest/danielle-finch/

Mission-driven and people-centered leader with 10+ years of experience driving global initiatives in operations, product, and project management. Passionate about creating scalable solutions that improve lives and strengthen communities, combining strategic execution with empathy-led leadership. Proven track record of mobilizing teams, fostering collaboration across diverse stakeholders, and delivering measurable social and organizational impact through innovation, inclusion, and sustainable growth.

Summary

In this episode of the Big World Made Small podcast, host Jason Elkins speaks with Danielle Finch, founder and CEO of Equera, a SaaS platform that promotes community-based tourism. Danielle shares her journey from a childhood influenced by international students to her first travels abroad, her education in business and sociology, and her corporate experiences at Michelin. She discusses the challenges of moving to Berlin during the pandemic, the importance of vulnerability in adapting to new cultures, and her insights on customer experience in the travel industry. Danielle's story is one of passion, purpose, and the desire to make the world feel smaller through meaningful connections. In this conversation, Danielle shares her journey of discovering her purpose through literature and personal experiences, emphasizing the importance of community-based tourism and equity in the travel industry. She discusses her transition from a corporate job to entrepreneurship, the challenges of building a community-based tourism platform, and the complexities of volunteerism. Danielle highlights the need for professionalization in community-based tourism and the importance of mentorship and support in her entrepreneurial journey.

Takeaways

• Equera is a SaaS platform for community-based tourism.
• Danielle's childhood experiences shaped her passion for travel.
• International students influenced Danielle's worldview.
• Her first trip abroad was to Kenya at age 22.
• Danielle studied business and sociology at Purdue University.
• She transitioned from corporate roles to focus on customer experience.
• Moving to Berlin during the pandemic was challenging but rewarding.
• Vulnerability is key when adapting to a new culture.
• Working at Michelin taught her about digital transformation.
• Danielle's current role focuses on enhancing customer experience in travel. Everyone has a purpose that needs to be uncovered.
• Using technology for social impact is crucial.
• Community-based tourism can empower local communities.
• Quitting a stable job can lead to fulfilling opportunities.
• Traveling can provide valuable insights into community needs.
• Professionalizing community-based tourism is essential for growth.
• Volunteerism should be approached with equality in mind.
• Building trust is key in community-based tourism.
• The tourism industry needs to focus on local ownership.
• Mentorship is invaluable for entrepreneurs.

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Emma Valahu
Founder
Inbox Journeys

https://adventuretravelmarketing.com/guest/emma-valahu/

Emma is the founder of Inbox Journeys and helps experiential travel founders build an automated system that turns website visitors and social media followers into warm, qualified leads—without them having to manually nurture every prospect.

summary

In this episode of the Big World Made Small podcast, host Jason Elkins speaks with Emma Valahu, founder of Inbox Journeys, about her journey in transformational travel and education. Emma shares her experiences living in various countries, including Ecuador and Romania, and discusses the importance of capturing potential customers early in their travel journey. The conversation delves into Emma's decision to homeschool her children, the challenges of balancing family life with travel, and her philosophy on education and curiosity. Emma's story is a testament to the transformative power of travel and the importance of following one's passions. In this conversation, Emma Valahu shares her journey from teaching English online to becoming a business consultant for tour operators. She discusses the importance of effective communication in the tourism industry, the challenges of relying on word-of-mouth marketing, and the critical role of email marketing in building trust and relationships with customers. Emma emphasizes the need for businesses to create valuable lead magnets to attract the right audience and overcome the emotional hurdles associated with unsubscribes. The discussion highlights the significance of nurturing customer relationships through consistent and meaningful communication.

takeaways

• Transformational travel begins before booking.
• Capturing potential customers early is crucial.
• Emma's journey reflects a passion for travel and education.
• Teaching English abroad opened new opportunities.
• Homeschooling was a response to traditional education pressures.
• Family dynamics influenced Emma's career choices.
• Living in Ecuador felt like home for Emma.
• Nature plays a significant role in Emma's life.
• Balancing travel desires with family responsibilities is challenging.
• Education should foster curiosity and a love for learning. Emma transitioned from teaching English online to consulting for tour operators.
• Effective communication is crucial for tour operators to connect with international clients.
• Relying solely on word-of-mouth marketing is not sustainable for businesses.
• Email marketing offers the highest return on investment compared to other marketing strategies.
• Building trust with customers requires multiple touchpoints and valuable content.
• Unsubscribes can be emotionally challenging for business owners, but they are a natural part of email marketing.
• Lead magnets should provide real value to attract the right audience.
• Understanding your target audience is essential for creating effective marketing strategies.
• Businesses should focus on nurturing relationships rather than just making sales.
• Transforming potential customers through valuable content is key to successful marketing.

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