In this episode of Out of Interest, we dive into the topic of the upcoming US election and the wide-reaching effects it will have on us here in Australia. Our guests, Ali, Muzza, and Hakan, unpack the various ways the results of this election could shape our economy, influence international relationships, and alter global dynamics that directly affect Australia.
We begin by exploring how the US, as a global economic leader, has a significant impact on markets worldwide. The outcome of this election could either stabilize or disrupt financial systems, affecting everything from interest rates to international trade agreements. Our hosts provide insights into how Australian businesses should prepare for these changes and what industries might be hit the hardest.

From a geopolitical standpoint, the discussion shifts to foreign policy. Ali, Muzza, and Hakan explain how US foreign relations, particularly with major powers like China and Russia, can have ripple effects across the globe, impacting Australia’s own diplomatic strategies and security concerns. The panel also addresses how conflicts in the Middle East and other global hotspots could intensify or cool down depending on who takes the White House.
In a more localized context, we explore what the US election might mean for Australia's social and political landscape. With the US often setting trends in global governance and social policies, how might shifts in leadership influence Australian politics? Our guests consider whether Australia’s ties with the US will strengthen or weaken under new leadership, and how that could affect everything from military alliances to cultural exchanges.
Finally, we dive into the broader societal implications. The discussion touches on immigration policies, environmental commitments, and how a change in US leadership could either escalate or ease global tensions, which ultimately affects Australia’s way of life.
This episode is packed with thought-provoking discussions on how interconnected our world is, and why Australians should care about what happens in the US election. Whether you’re invested in global politics, business, or just curious about what lies ahead, this conversation will leave you with a deeper understanding of how closely our fates are tied to global superpowers like the US.

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In this episode of Out of Interest, we sit down with Mick Liubinskas, an entrepreneur, angel investor, climate tech advocate, and co-founder of Pollenizer and Climate Salad. Mick’s extensive experience in sustainability and innovation positions him as a leading voice in the climate tech space. He shares powerful insights on how individuals, businesses, and governments can make tangible changes to combat the climate crisis.

Mick addresses the ongoing environmental challenges, such as the impact of air pollution and plastics, and emphasizes the importance of small, everyday changes like reducing red meat consumption and using public transport. He stresses that while the human impact on climate change is significant, individual actions can contribute to larger systemic shifts.

When discussing electric cars, Mick explains that they are not the ultimate solution but are part of a broader movement towards sustainability. He highlights the need for technological advancements and affordable electric vehicles, particularly in Australia, to make a meaningful impact. Mick also points out the importance of making eco-friendly choices more accessible, acknowledging that it’s unrealistic to expect consumers to prioritize the environment if it comes at a high cost.

Looking ahead, Mick is optimistic about the future of energy, predicting that by the middle of the next decade, energy could be so cheap that it’s almost free. However, he cautions that getting there will require overcoming significant challenges. He also reveals some startling facts, such as the 140 liters of water required to make a single cup of coffee, reminding us of the hidden environmental costs behind our daily habits and the urgency to act.

Despite the overwhelming nature of the climate crisis, Mick remains hopeful, urging us to focus on solutions and to act now before the effects of climate change become irreversible. He emphasizes the power of consumers and employees to drive change, particularly by influencing companies that rely on fossil fuels. Drawing from the success of fixing the ozone layer, Mick believes that similar regulatory efforts can tackle today’s environmental issues.

Finally, Mick uses Kim Kardashian’s extravagant trip for a cheesecake as an example to discuss how the ultra-wealthy contribute disproportionately to pollution. Despite this, he argues that we all share the burden of its impact and that collective action is necessary.

This episode is packed with thought-provoking insights and actionable advice on how we can all play a part in creating a more sustainable future. Whether you're curious about climate tech or simply want to know what small steps you can take, this conversation with Mick will leave you both informed and inspired.

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Hejaz, Australia’s leading financial group, offers a comprehensive suite of Sharia-compliant products and services to the Islamic community. Dive into the world of Islamic finance and discover more about Hejaz Financial Services at:

www.hejazfs.com.au

Hosted by Ali Ozyon:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrozyon/
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ali-ozyon-75168285/

Co-Hosted by Muzzammil Dhedhy:
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Connect with Out of Interest Podcast:
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In this episode, we sit down with Simon Newton, a former British soldier, Hollywood body double, and celebrity bodyguard, whose career has taken him from military deployments in Iraq to protecting some of the biggest names in entertainment. Simon kicks things off by sharing his journey into the military, explaining that his decision wasn’t driven by patriotism but by a strong desire to be a soldier. He reflects on the lessons the military taught him—punctuality, discipline, and the importance of never taking shortcuts—which have shaped his career in Hollywood and beyond.

We delve into Simon’s fascinating experiences as Dave Bautista’s body double in the action-packed movie Final Score and his work on Sherlock Holmes. He clarifies the often-misunderstood difference between being a body double and a stuntman, giving us a behind-the-scenes look at what it really takes to stand in for a Hollywood star.

Simon also shares gripping stories from his time in Iraq, including the intense transition from what seemed like a quiet deployment to facing daily bombings and attacks. He opens up about the first shocking realization that he was in the middle of a war zone and how those moments shaped his perspective on life and duty. Simon’s candid account of life in a war zone offers a raw and real view of what it’s like to face danger every day.

We also explore Simon’s time as Michael Jackson’s bodyguard, where he reveals the crazy lengths fans would go to in order to catch a glimpse of the King of Pop. He talks about the unique challenges of being a celebrity bodyguard, from dealing with intense fan interactions to working around the clock with stars like Rita Ora. Simon sheds light on the glamorous yet exhausting reality of being on call 24/7, never having a day off, and balancing personal life with the demanding needs of high-profile clients.

Finally, we wrap up with Simon’s thoughts on whether he would consider going to Ukraine, reflecting on his experiences in war zones and his current career. This episode provides a captivating look at Simon Newton’s multifaceted career and the incredible experiences that have shaped him into the professional he is today.

Key Topics:

• Simon’s decision to join the military and what drove him
• Lessons learned from the military: discipline, punctuality, and doing things right
• Being Dave Bautista’s body double in Final Score and working in Hollywood
• The difference between a body double and a stuntman
• Simon’s deployment in Iraq and the reality of daily bombings and attacks
• Working as Michael Jackson’s bodyguard and dealing with intense fans
• The demanding and relentless schedule of being a celebrity bodyguard
• Simon’s thoughts on returning to a war zone, including Ukraine

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Hejaz, Australia’s leading financial group, offers a comprehensive suite of Sharia-compliant products and services to the Islamic community. Dive into the world of Islamic finance and discover more about Hejaz Financial Services at:

www.hejazfs.com.au

Hosted by Ali Ozyon:



📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrozyon/
💼LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ali-ozyon-75168285/

Co-Hosted by Muzzammil Dhedhy:
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Connect with Out of Interest Podcast:
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In this powerful episode of the Out of Interest Podcast, recorded during our time in London, we sit down with the incredibly talented Harry Pinero, a London-born social media star, YouTuber, and sports presenter known for his work with major content creators like Beta Squad. Harry opens up about the challenges of balancing his Muslim faith while navigating the entertainment industry and being in the public eye.

From his deep connection to Islam to his thoughts on football culture and fame, Harry shares his personal experiences with honesty and insight. We dive into everything from the criticism he’s faced, the importance of family prayers, and how his yearly trips to Madina ground him spiritually.

In this conversation, Harry discusses:

- How Islam has shaped his life and career.
- The struggles of being a Muslim entertainer in today’s world.
- The judgment he faces from the Muslim community as a prominent online figure.
- His journey to finding peace and purpose through faith.
- His passion for Manchester United and his thoughts on the club’s current challenges.
- Working with major content creators like Beta Squad and how collaboration has influenced his career.

This episode is packed with laughs, honest insights, and some powerful thoughts on faith, family, and staying true to yourself. If you’re curious about what life is like behind the scenes for Harry Pinero, you’ll love this episode!

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Hejaz, Australia’s leading financial group, offers a comprehensive suite of Sharia-compliant products and services to the Islamic community. Dive into the world of Islamic finance and discover more about Hejaz Financial Services at:

www.hejazfs.com.au

Hosted by Ali Ozyon:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrozyon/
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ali-ozyon-75168285/

Co-Hosted by Muzzammil Dhedhy:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muftimuzza/

Connect with Out of Interest Podcast:
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In this episode of the Out of Interest Podcast, we sit down with former Richmond and GWS Giants AFL star Brett Deledio. Brett takes us through his incredible career in footy and his transition from being one of the AFL’s top players to now mentoring the next generation as a player manager.

Brett begins by reflecting on his early years at Richmond, where he was thrust into the spotlight as the #1 draft pick with the pressure of living up to expectations. He talks about the challenges of being such a high-profile young player, the weight of representing a struggling club, and how he coped with the public’s eyes always on him. Despite those challenges, Brett became a central figure in the Tigers' rebuild.

One of the most emotional parts of Brett’s journey was his decision to leave Richmond after 12 years. Brett opens up about how he initially wanted a fresh start but later found it difficult to part ways with the club. He shares the behind-the-scenes details of his meetings with the GWS Giants and Western Bulldogs, and how he ultimately made the move to GWS, a decision that was anything but easy.

Brett also talks about the heartbreak of losing the 2017 Preliminary Final to his old side, Richmond, and the pain of watching them go on to win the premiership. Having spent over a decade with the Tigers through their darkest days, it was a difficult experience to miss out on the ultimate success. This was one of the most testing moments of his career, and Brett opens up about the emotional toll it took on him.

Beyond his playing days, Brett delves into the business side of AFL, including how players are paid, the workings of the salary cap, and how clubs manage player contracts. He candidly shares his thoughts on whether AFL players are paid enough for their contribution to the game and explains how salaries can lead to frustration within the team.

Finally, Brett discusses his current role as a player manager at Mac Sports Management, where he’s helping young athletes navigate the complexities of professional sport. He emphasizes the importance of financial literacy, budgeting, and making smart decisions early in a player’s career. Brett’s passion for mentoring the next generation shines through as he talks about setting athletes up for life after footy, ensuring they are prepared for whatever comes next.

This is a deep, insightful episode filled with both triumph and heartache, and it offers a unique look at what life is like behind the curtain in professional footy.

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Hejaz, Australia’s leading financial group, offers a comprehensive suite of Sharia-compliant products and services to the Islamic community. Dive into the world of Islamic finance and discover more about Hejaz Financial Services at:

www.hejazfs.com.au

Hosted by Ali Ozyon:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrozyon/
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ali-ozyon-75168285/

Co-Hosted by Muzzammil Dhedhy:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muftimuzza/

Connect with Out of Interest Podcast:
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In this episode of the Out of Interest podcast, we sit down with Jeff Morgan, whose life story is nothing short of jaw-dropping. Once a key member of the infamous Sledgehammer Gang, Jeff spent years pulling off bank heists and living a life most people only see in movies. But his story doesn’t end there.

Jeff takes us through his early years, growing up in an Aboriginal community, and how the environment shaped him into someone who saw crime as just another part of life. He opens up about his time in prison, the harsh realities behind bars, and how he managed to turn it all around.

This conversation dives deep into the impact of trauma, the struggles Aboriginal people continue to face, and the systemic failures of the justice system. But at the heart of Jeff's story is a message of hope, resilience, and redemption. He didn’t just get out of prison; he got out of the mindset that trapped him there in the first place. Now, Jeff is all about giving back and helping others break the cycle.

Whether you’re curious about life in a gang, the inner workings of the prison system, or how someone can make such a radical change, this episode will leave you thinking long after it's over.

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Hejaz, Australia’s leading financial group, offers a comprehensive suite of Sharia-compliant products and services to the Islamic community. Dive into the world of Islamic finance and discover more about Hejaz Financial Services at:

www.hejazfs.com.au

Hosted by Ali Ozyon:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrozyon/
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ali-ozyon-75168285/

Co-Hosted by Muzzammil Dhedhy:
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Connect with Out of Interest Podcast:
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In this eye-opening episode of the Out of Interest Podcast, Ali and Mazza sit down with true crime author Vikki Petraitis for an honest and insightful conversation.

Vikki shares her journey from teaching to writing about some of Australia’s most notorious crimes, including the Frankston murders. She dives into the psychology behind serial killers, the emotional toll on victims' families, and what it’s like to bring these stories to life.

They also touch on the media’s influence, why some crimes get glorified, and whether people can really be rehabilitated. It’s a deep, thought-provoking chat that goes beyond the headlines.
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Hejaz, Australia’s leading financial group, offers a comprehensive suite of Sharia-compliant products and services to the Islamic community. Dive into the world of Islamic finance and discover more about Hejaz Financial Services at:

www.hejazfs.com.au

Hosted by Ali Ozyon:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrozyon/
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ali-ozyon-75168285/

Co-Hosted by Muzzammil Dhedhy:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muftimuzza/

Connect with Out of Interest Podcast:
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In today’s powerful episode, we sit down with the legendary Wayne Schwass. Wayne is a former AFL champion who played 282 games over an outstanding career with North Melbourne and the Sydney Swans. He’s a two-time premiership player, known for his tenacity on the field and respected as one of the game’s fiercest competitors.

But beyond his football accolades, Wayne has become a leading advocate for mental health awareness. After years of battling his own mental health challenges during the peak of his AFL career, Wayne has dedicated his life to breaking the stigma around men’s mental health. He is the founder of Puka Up, a social enterprise focused on mental health education, emotional well-being, and suicide prevention. Through Puka Up, Wayne works to create environments and conversations that allow people to speak openly about mental health.

What We Covered:
This episode delves deep into the emotional and mental battles Wayne faced both during and after his AFL career. Wayne shares his personal story of suffering in silence while trying to uphold the image of a professional athlete. From the highs of winning premierships to the lows of sitting in his car after training, overwhelmed and unable to talk to anyone, Wayne reveals the hidden struggles of mental health.

We tackle the topic of wearing a mask—how Wayne spent years hiding his emotions and the damaging toll it took on his mental health. He opens up about the outdated belief that crying is a sign of weakness, especially for men in sports, and how breaking this mindset has allowed him to embrace vulnerability.

Another key part of the conversation is the identity crisis Wayne experienced after retiring from AFL. For years, his career defined him, but today, he’s more focused on being remembered for his work in mental health advocacy through Puka Up. Wayne stresses the importance of finding your identity beyond your job and truly understanding who you are as a person.

We also dive into the importance of mental well-being, with Wayne emphasizing that mental health needs to be prioritized just like servicing your car. He explains how many of us neglect our mental health, despite it being one of the most crucial aspects of our overall well-being.

One of the most emotional parts of this episode is when Wayne opens up about his relationship with his father. He talks about the struggle to tell his 81-year-old dad that he loves him, and how those unspoken feelings have shaped their relationship. It’s a powerful reminder of how important it is to express love and emotions, even when it feels difficult.

Wayne’s raw and candid story reminds us that mental health struggles can affect anyone, no matter how successful they may appear. The episode challenges us all to take a step back, reflect on whether we’re hiding behind a mask, and prioritise mental well-being in our daily lives.

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Hejaz, Australia’s leading financial group, offers a comprehensive suite of Sharia-compliant products and services to the Islamic community. Dive into the world of Islamic finance and discover more about Hejaz Financial Services at:

www.hejazfs.com.au

Hosted by Ali Ozyon:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrozyon/
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ali-ozyon-75168285/

Co-Hosted by Muzzammil Dhedhy:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muftimuzza/

Connect with Out of Interest Podcast:
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