This week wraps up our interview with L’aigner. In part two, we talk about how she navigates difficult conversations about institutional racism and the experiences of black people living in America with her white father.

We shift the topic for a bit to discuss history’s perception of black people in the media. Then, L’aigner touches on her father’s experiences with face-to-face prejudice as a white man who likes dating black women and whether or not she should feel empathy for him. 

You’ll also hear our viewpoints on parents struggling to come to terms with raising their kids to be independent thinkers. In addition, L’aigner shares some key takeaways from this discussion to consider if you’re bi-racial or have close relationships with white people. 

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In this episode:

[02:05] - Through conversations, Brittney knows non-black people, especially immigrants and their families, find it challenging to empathize with the black experience.

[04:32] - Brittney mentions reading an article recently suggesting black people shouldn’t watch viral videos of police brutality.

[05:37] - The news has a major impact on shaping perception and is part of the institution. Pops makes a point of how we rarely see good news about black people.

[09:51] - When L’aigner has these types of conversations with her dad, he always asks why he as a white male is blamed for American society’s problems.

[12:23] - When interacting with her mother’s side of the family, L’aigner’s dad dealt with incidences of mistrust based on his race.

[14:25] - Pops points out the major difference between the mistreatment black people face and what L’aigner’s dad experiences.

[18:13] - Brittney wonders how receptive L’aigner’s dad has been to anything she’s shared with him regarding racial issues.

[22:00] - L’aigner asks Pops if he’s ever felt defensive by his daughter’s perspective on something.

[24:41] - Pops had to learn to share his opinions while respecting other’s viewpoints.

[26:17] - Sometimes parents get carried away with trying to get their kids to do things the same way they do.

[29:10] - Before wrapping up the show, L’aigner has some final thoughts and takeaways.

Links and Resources:

Season 2 episode 13: Unprecedented times: protests, uprising, and racism

@laignerlmassey on Instagram

Girl Talk With Pops

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Girl Talk With Pops on Facebook

Girl Talk With Pops on Apple Podcasts