On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan Greene interviews Ashley Garner, founder of ABG & Associates and a multifamily investor with more than three decades of experience. Ashley shares how growing up renovating college rentals with his banker father shaped his long-term mindset and ultimately led him to scale from small single-family properties to hundreds of apartment units across North Carolina.

Ashley reflects on the transition from hands-on landlord to operator and capital raiser, explaining why scaling required him to let go of control and trust professional property management. He discusses the importance of communication systems, standardized processes, and focusing geographically to build operational leverage. The conversation also explores syndication, raising capital through relationships, and how cost segregation and bonus depreciation can dramatically enhance investor returns.

Throughout the episode, Jonathan and Ashley return to a central theme: real estate is a long game. Whether it's holding properties for decades to fund long-term care, prioritizing clean and safe housing for tenants, or building trust with investors, sustainable success comes from discipline, patience, and strong relationships.

In this episode, you will hear:

• How Ashley's early exposure to college rentals shaped his investing philosophy

• Why scaling required letting go of hands-on management

• The importance of structured communication with property managers

• How focusing on one state can create operational and investor advantages

• The mindset shift from "asking for money" to offering opportunity through syndication

• How cost segregation and bonus depreciation can significantly boost investor returns

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Connect with Ashley:

Website: http://www.abgmultifamily.com/

Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/@abgmultifamily

Facebook: http://facebook.com/ABGRealEstate

Instagram: http://instagram.com/abgrealestate

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleybgarner/

X: http://twitter.com/ABGRealEstate

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Website - www.streamlined.properties

YouTube - www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos

Instagram - www.instagram.com/trustgreene

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Zillow - www.zillow.com/profile/streamlinen​j

Bigger Pockets - www.biggerpockets.com/users/jonathangreene

Facebook - www.facebook.com/streamlinedproperties

Email - info@streamlined.properties

This episode was produced by Outlier Audio.

On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan Greene interviews Aubrey Linville, co-founder and partner of Linville Team Partners. With more than 20 years of experience across retail, office, industrial, and mixed-use properties, Aubrey shares how he evolved from flipping small residential foreclosures into building and scaling a diversified commercial real estate platform.

Aubrey explains why retail remains his favorite asset class, especially multi-tenant strip centers that balance risk and opportunity. He discusses the advantages of working with mom-and-pop tenants, the importance of relationships in commercial real estate, and why being a problem solver often creates more value than chasing perfectly "clean" deals. The conversation also dives into syndications, fund structures, and how thoughtful operators can create alignment between general and limited partners.

Jonathan and Aubrey explore the mindset shift from active landlord to passive investor, the power of walking away from a deal, and why trusting your gut is often just as important as underwriting spreadsheets. Aubrey also shares how his entrepreneurial upbringing shaped his approach to real estate and why investing with people you trust is more important than chasing the highest projected IRR.

In this episode, you will hear:

• Why multi-tenant retail can reduce risk compared to single-tenant assets
• The value of relationships with mom-and-pop tenants
• How to evaluate syndication opportunities as a limited partner
• Why walking away is sometimes the best negotiation strategy
• The role of gut instinct alongside financial underwriting
• How trust and communication build long-term investor relationships

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Connect with Aubrey:

Website: https://www.ltpcommercial.com/services/investment-services/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LTPcommercial/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/linvilleteam/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aubreylinville

X: https://x.com/linvilleteam

Connect with Jonathan:

Website - www.streamlined.properties

YouTube - www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos

Instagram - www.instagram.com/trustgreene

Instagram - www.instagram.com/streamlinedproperties

Zillow - www.zillow.com/profile/streamlinen​j

Bigger Pockets - www.biggerpockets.com/users/jonathangreene

Facebook - www.facebook.com/streamlinedproperties

Email - info@streamlined.properties

This episode was produced by Outlier Audio.

On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan Greene sits down with Ryan Cadwell, partner at Resolute RDM, to unpack how "dumb money" and undisciplined underwriting have distorted real estate markets over the last cycle. Ryan shares how cheap capital, short-term thinking, and inexperienced investors created inflated valuations that are now forcing hard lessons as loans reset and assumptions break.

The conversation dives deep into why advisory services matter more than ever, especially for out-of-state investors and newer buyers navigating markets they don't fully understand. Ryan explains why spreadsheets alone don't make good investments, how lenders' incentives can misalign with investors', and why slowing down often leads to better long-term outcomes.

Jonathan and Ryan also explore the human side of real estate, from landlord-tenant dynamics to the emotional toll of DIY management. They discuss why many investors unknowingly trade time freedom for stress, how ego and vanity metrics like "door count" lead to poor decisions, and why knowing what you actually want from real estate is more important than chasing trends.

In this episode, you will hear:

• Why "dumb money" helps on the sale but hurts on the next buy

• How cheap debt masked bad underwriting during the last cycle

• Why lenders are not always the safety net investors assume

• The difference between buying property and actually investing

• How property management fees often save money long-term

• Why asset management matters more than owning more doors

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Connect with Ryan:

Website: http://www.resoluterdm.com/

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@resoluterdm

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ryancadwell

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/resoluterdm/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryancadwell/

Connect with Jonathan:

Website - www.streamlined.properties

YouTube - www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos

Instagram - www.instagram.com/trustgreene

Instagram - www.instagram.com/streamlinedproperties

Zillow - www.zillow.com/profile/streamlinen​j

Bigger Pockets - www.biggerpockets.com/users/jonathangreene

Facebook - www.facebook.com/streamlinedproperties

Email - info@streamlined.properties

This episode was produced by Outlier Audio.

On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan Greene welcomes back Jose Berlanga, real estate developer, builder, and author, for a deep dive into land investing, development strategy, and the lessons learned from more than 30 years in the business. Returning to the show with his new book, Dirt Rich: Explore the World of Land Investing and Development, Jose shares how land deals played a critical role in capitalizing his construction company and shaping his long-term investment approach.

The conversation explores the realities of land development, including zoning challenges, neighborhood resistance, entitlement risk, and why so many investors underestimate the complexity of building from the ground up. Jose explains the importance of repetition, local expertise, and understanding your niche, emphasizing that successful developers stick to what they know rather than constantly reinventing the wheel.

Jonathan and Jose also discuss timing market cycles, the role of capital reserves during downturns, and why reputation, relationships, and integrity matter more than squeezing every dollar out of a single deal. The episode offers a grounded look at land as the foundation of all real estate value and why patience, vision, and long-term thinking are essential for lasting success.

• How land flipping helped fund and grow a construction business

• Why zoning, permitting, and community dynamics make land development complex

• The risks of jumping into development without experience or local knowledge

• Why repetition and staying in one niche lead to better outcomes

• How reputation and long-term relationships create deal flow over time

If you enjoy the show, please follow Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing on Apple Podcasts and leave a rating and review. It helps other listeners discover these conversations and supports the show's growth.

Connect with Jose:

Jose's first appearance on the show: https://zenandtheartofrealestateinvesting.com/podcast/211/

Website: https://joseberlanga.com/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/authorjoseberlanga

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/authorjoseberlanga/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jose-berlanga-900a9518/

Jose's Books: https://joseberlanga.com/books/

Jose's New Book: https://www.amazon.com/Dirt-Rich-Jose-M-Berlanga-ebook/dp/B0FRNHY6PC

Connect with Jonathan:

Website - www.streamlined.properties

YouTube - www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos

Instagram - www.instagram.com/trustgreene

Instagram - www.instagram.com/streamlinedproperties

Zillow - www.zillow.com/profile/streamlinen​j

Bigger Pockets - www.biggerpockets.com/users/jonathangreene

Facebook - www.facebook.com/streamlinedproperties

Email - info@streamlined.properties

This episode was produced by Outlier Audio.

On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan Greene sits down with Jeff Hurst, CEO of Furnished Finder, to explore the fast-growing world of midterm rentals and why they're becoming an increasingly attractive option for both renters and real estate investors. Jeff explains how monthly furnished rentals serve professionals, relocating families, and healthcare workers—distinctly different from traditional short-term vacation rentals.

The conversation breaks down why midterm rentals often deliver better cash flow than long-term rentals with far less operational intensity than short-term rentals. Jeff also shares insights from Furnished Finder's first-of-its-kind housing market report, created in partnership with AirDNA, revealing just how durable and widespread demand for monthly rentals has become across the U.S.

Listeners will walk away with a clearer understanding of where midterm rentals fit between long-term and short-term housing, how investors are discovering this niche, and why this category may continue to grow as housing affordability, mobility, and lifestyle preferences evolve.

• Why midterm rentals serve a fundamentally different tenant base than short-term rentals

• How furnished monthly rentals can outperform long-term rentals with less management

• Key insights from the Furnished Finder and AirDNA housing market report

• Why hospitals, universities, and commuter corridors are strong midterm rental locations

• How investors can reduce risk by underwriting midterm rentals as long-term deals

If you enjoy the show, please follow Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing on Apple Podcasts and leave a rating and review. It helps other listeners discover these conversations and supports the show's growth.

Connect with Jeff:

Website: http://www.furnishedfinder.com/

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@FurnishedFinder

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FURNISHEDFINDER

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/furnishedfinder/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/furnished-finder/

The Report: https://www.furnishedfinder.com/resources/monthly-rental-market-trends-report

Connect with Jonathan:

Website - www.streamlined.properties

YouTube - www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos

Instagram - www.instagram.com/trustgreene

Instagram - www.instagram.com/streamlinedproperties

Zillow - www.zillow.com/profile/streamlinen​j

Bigger Pockets - www.biggerpockets.com/users/jonathangreene

Facebook - www.facebook.com/streamlinedproperties

Email - info@streamlined.properties

This episode was produced by Outlier Audio.

On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan Greene is joined by Jonathan Iger, CEO of Sage Realty Corporation, to explore how a 100-year-old, family-owned real estate company is redefining the modern office experience. Drawing on Sage's deep roots in New York City office development, Jonathan explains how brand, hospitality, and operational excellence can drive higher tenant retention and long-term value creation.

The conversation dives into why office real estate was already changing before COVID, how renewal rates are often misunderstood, and why "experience" has become a core driver of NOI and asset performance. Jonathan also shares how Sage applies hospitality principles like consistency, service recovery, and "surprise and delight" to create differentiated office environments that tenants don't want to leave.

Listeners will gain insight into where the office market is heading, how branded office platforms can create alpha for investors, and why the future of office belongs to owners who treat buildings as long-term relationships rather than short-term transactions.

• How Sage Realty evolved from traditional office ownership into a branded office platform

• Why tenant renewal rates are far lower than most underwriting assumptions

• The role of hospitality, SOPs, and service recovery in commercial real estate

• How experience-driven offices can increase rents, NOI, and long-term asset value

• Why office real estate isn't dead, but fundamentally changing

If you enjoy the show, please follow Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing on Apple Podcasts and leave a rating and review. It helps other listeners discover these conversations and supports the show's growth.

Connect with Jonathan:

Website: https://sagerealty.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/experience_sage/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sage-realty-corporation/

Connect with Jonathan:

Website - www.streamlined.properties

YouTube - www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos

Instagram - www.instagram.com/trustgreene

Instagram - www.instagram.com/streamlinedproperties

Zillow - www.zillow.com/profile/streamlinen​j

Bigger Pockets - www.biggerpockets.com/users/jonathangreene

Facebook - www.facebook.com/streamlinedproperties

Email - info@streamlined.properties

This episode was produced by Outlier Audio.

On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan Greene is joined by Stuart Gethner, a longtime real estate investor, educator, and connector who has spent decades helping investors move from analysis into action. Stuart shares insights from his experience coaching investors and building his own portfolio across multiple market cycles.

The conversation centers on why real estate is ultimately a people business. Stuart explains how networking, local market knowledge, and face-to-face relationships help investors avoid costly mistakes—especially when investing out of state or relying too heavily on online education. He and Jonathan discuss the limits of "YouTube University" and why real confidence comes from real conversations with experienced investors.

Jonathan and Stuart also dive into partnerships, property management, and investor self-awareness. From understanding your personal strengths to building complementary partnerships and avoiding shiny object syndrome, the episode emphasizes patience, humility, and long-term thinking as foundations for sustainable investing success.

• Why networking groups accelerate investor confidence and clarity

• The risks of relying solely on online education without local insight

• How partnerships work best when both sides have equal skin in the game

• Why investing close to home often reduces operational risk

• How patience and long-term thinking outperform "get rich quick" strategies

If you enjoy the show, please follow Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing on Apple Podcasts and leave a rating and review. It helps other listeners discover these conversations and supports the show's growth.

Connect with Stuart:

Website: http://www.stuartgethner.com/

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@StuartGethner

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Gethner-Education-Consulting/61578852277422/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stuartgethner

LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/stuartgethner/

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@stuart_gethner

Connect with Jonathan:

Website - www.streamlined.properties

YouTube - www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos

Instagram - www.instagram.com/trustgreene

Instagram - www.instagram.com/streamlinedproperties

Zillow - www.zillow.com/profile/streamlinen​j

Bigger Pockets - www.biggerpockets.com/users/jonathangreene

Facebook - www.facebook.com/streamlinedproperties

Email - info@streamlined.properties

This episode was produced by Outlier Audio.

On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan Greene sits down with Nick Corwin, founder of Oak and Ember, to explore what it really looks like to move from long-term rentals into short-term hospitality and eventually into ground-up development. Nick shares how an engineering mindset, strong mentorship, and disciplined downside analysis shaped his early investing decisions.

The conversation traces Nick's evolution from owning Midwest long-term rentals to building unique short-term experiences in the Wisconsin Dells. He explains why chasing the middle of the market can be a losing strategy, how combining units and serving overlooked guest segments created an edge, and why operating short-term rentals requires far more systems and empathy than most investors expect.

Jonathan and Nick also unpack the realities of entitlement risk, zoning battles, and development timelines. Nick offers a candid look at what it takes to push a project through local approvals, manage rising costs, and stay grounded when timelines and budgets inevitably expand.

In this episode, you will hear:

• Why testing whether you even like being a landlord matters before scaling

• How Nick identified underserved short-term rental niches instead of competing in crowded markets

• The operational differences between long-term rentals and hospitality businesses

• Lessons learned from zoning, entitlement hurdles, and community resistance

• Why doubling both your budget and timeline can save you from painful surprises

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Connect with Nick:

Website: http://www.stayoakandember.com/

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@Korwinning

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/korwinning/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/korwinning/

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@korwinning

Connect with Jonathan:

Website - www.streamlined.properties

YouTube - www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos

Instagram - www.instagram.com/trustgreene

Instagram - www.instagram.com/streamlinedproperties

Zillow - www.zillow.com/profile/streamlinen​j

Bigger Pockets - www.biggerpockets.com/users/jonathangreene

Facebook - www.facebook.com/streamlinedproperties

Email - info@streamlined.properties

This episode was produced by Outlier Audio.