In this thought-provoking and unusual episode of This Is A Voice, Dr. Gillyanne Kayes & Jeremy Fisher sit down with Naomi Lee Schulke, a passionate singing teacher / researcher at Falmouth University. Naomi shares her journey through Vocal Process's Teacher Accreditation Programme and her fascinating work in supporting gender identity in musical theatre training.

🎭 From overcoming imposter syndrome to finding authentic expression in a world of rigid vocal expectations, Naomi opens up about the importance of collaboration, identity, and creating safe spaces for trans and non-binary performers.

🎙 Listen as we dive into the challenges of navigating gender expression in vocal training and how this work is reshaping the future of musical theatre. Whether you're a professional singer, vocal coach, or an actor passionate about the performing arts, this conversation is a must-listen!

📌 Topics covered:

The role of identity and authenticity in musical theatre
Supporting gender-diverse performers
Redefining vocal training for trans and non-binary singers
Insights into musical theatre's evolution post-pandemic
Watch now and join the conversation on the future of vocal education in musical theatre!

00:00 Gillyanne & Jeremy set the scene
01:27 Naomi on “enlightening & scary”
06:44 No competition among singing teachers
11:48 Losing your identity as a student
16:02 How your feel isn’t how you sound
18:02 Gender expression
21:26 Choir parts and non-binary singers
26:46 Whose opinion is choral part allocation?
29:14 Problem of coming out in EVERY performance
32:59 Changing the industry at university level
38:29 Arrangement versus composition

Find out more about Naomi
Naomi @ naomileeschulke.com
https://vocalidentity.co.uk


You can find out about our Teacher Pathway for singing teachers, vocal coaches and choir leaders here
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What's changing in musical theatre, and what needs to change? And what is authenticity in performance anyway? In their 100th episode, Gillyanne and Jeremy chat with singer researcher Guro von Germeten on her research into gender, authenticity and musical theatre.
How does taste influence your vocal training? How is gender identity challenging musical theatre casting?
Guro shares her passion on flexibility of vocal sounds, the role of recordings in musical theatre education, and the importance of providing a safe space for vocal experimentation
If you're passionate about musical theatre, join this podcast and discover how the industry is developing.
Perfect for singers, singing teachers and musical theatre enthusiasts wanting to innovate their craft

0:00 Authenticity versus believability
01:36 Students investigating musical taste
04:46 Taking time to explore in a masterclass
06:25 We're not aiming for perfect
08:42 Using recordings in musical theatre training
10:21 Analysing multiple singers in a role
12:02 Putting their recordings onto your voice
13:30 Singing is not just sound
15:53 Training, history and attractor states
19:14 What is authenticity for a singer?
22:12 Billie Eilish is a genre
23:32 Is authenticity just commitment?
28:12 Confidence, Clarity and Commitment
31:07 Who am I that listens?
32:48 Non-binary voice in musical theatre

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Find out more about Guro
YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzMK7LpMRkYvfWTK1DynaKw
Instagram https://www.instagram.com/gurovongermeten/
Guro's full PhD Dissertation on The Omnivorous Voice can be found here: https://nmh.no/en/research/projects/guro-von-germeten-completed-phd


You can find out about our Teacher Pathway for singing teachers, vocal coaches and choir leaders here
https://vocalprocess.co.uk/teacher-accreditation/

We've also got this ↓

For the best self-guided learning, check out the Vocal Process Learning Lounge - 22 years of vocal coaching resources (over 600 videos) for less than the price of one private singing lesson.
Click on the link https://vocalprocess.co.uk/learning-lounge/learning-lounge-level-2-deep-dive/

If you want to discover if our singing teacher training programme works for YOU, message us - we can share the process for joining Cohort24. https://www.cognitoforms.com/VocalProcess1/TheAccreditationProgramme

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Join Dr Gillyanne Kayes and Jeremy Fisher in a fascinating and deep episode on the omnivorous voice, featuring Dr. Guro von Germerten.
Guro shares the highlights from her PhD on musical tastes and vocal techniques. From her emotional childhood experience as a pianist to her groundbreaking research on the omnivorous voice, Guro discusses the complexities of taste, tradition, and cultural expectations in musical performance. From the process of PhD defence in Europe, to the concept of musical omnivorousness, and the hidden problems of musical taste, this episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in music education, vocal performance, and the evolving dynamics of taste and authenticity in the arts.

00:00 Crushing dreams with a single comment
02:17 How did Gillyanne and Guro meet?
03:10 How a PhD defence works in Europe
05:36 The omnivorous voice
08:13 Cultural and ethical implications in Musical Theatre
13:24 Shortcutting in casting musicals
16:07 Uncovering your own biases
19:18 The role of taste in music and performance
27:08 A rebel with an accordian
31:17 Does the composer actually know?
33:30 Taste and values on the Accreditation Programme
35:22 We are also music lovers
38:30 When musical tastes collide


Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and hit the bell icon for more insightful episodes. Leave a comment below on what inspired you the most from Guro's episode! 👇

Find out more about Guro
YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzMK7LpMRkYvfWTK1DynaKw
Instagram https://www.instagram.com/gurovongermeten/
Guro's full PhD Dissertation on The Omnivorous Voice can be found here: https://nmh.no/en/research/projects/guro-von-germeten-completed-phd


You can find out about our Teacher Pathway for singing teachers, vocal coaches and choir leaders here
https://vocalprocess.co.uk/teacher-accreditation/

We've also got this ↓

For the best self-guided learning, check out the Vocal Process Learning Lounge - 22 years of vocal coaching resources (over 600 videos) for less than the price of one private singing lesson.
Click on the link https://vocalprocess.co.uk/learning-lounge/learning-lounge-level-2-deep-dive/

If you want to discover if our singing teacher training programme works for YOU, message us - we can share the process for joining Cohort24. https://www.cognitoforms.com/VocalProcess1/TheAccreditationProgramme

Get the One Minute Voice Warmup app here, it's got a 4.9star rating
Appstore https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/one-minute-voice-warmup/id1212802251
Google Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.speechtools.warmup&hl=en_GB

Check out our Voice Journal, written with Rayvox's Oren Boder https://www.rayvox.co.uk/products/voice-journal?ref=VOCALPROCESS

Find us - follow us on the socials!
🐦 Twitter - https://twitter.com/Vocalprocess
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