In this thought-provoking and unusual episode of This Is A Voice, Dr. Gillyanne Kayes & Jeremy Fisher sit down with Naomi Lee Schulke, a passionate singing teacher / researcher at Falmouth University. Naomi shares her journey through Vocal Process's Teacher Accreditation Programme and her fascinating work in supporting gender identity in musical theatre training.

🎭 From overcoming imposter syndrome to finding authentic expression in a world of rigid vocal expectations, Naomi opens up about the importance of collaboration, identity, and creating safe spaces for trans and non-binary performers.

🎙 Listen as we dive into the challenges of navigating gender expression in vocal training and how this work is reshaping the future of musical theatre. Whether you're a professional singer, vocal coach, or an actor passionate about the performing arts, this conversation is a must-listen!

📌 Topics covered:

The role of identity and authenticity in musical theatre
Supporting gender-diverse performers
Redefining vocal training for trans and non-binary singers
Insights into musical theatre's evolution post-pandemic
Watch now and join the conversation on the future of vocal education in musical theatre!

00:00 Gillyanne & Jeremy set the scene
01:27 Naomi on “enlightening & scary”
06:44 No competition among singing teachers
11:48 Losing your identity as a student
16:02 How your feel isn’t how you sound
18:02 Gender expression
21:26 Choir parts and non-binary singers
26:46 Whose opinion is choral part allocation?
29:14 Problem of coming out in EVERY performance
32:59 Changing the industry at university level
38:29 Arrangement versus composition

Find out more about Naomi
Naomi @ naomileeschulke.com
https://vocalidentity.co.uk


You can find out about our Teacher Pathway for singing teachers, vocal coaches and choir leaders here
https://vocalprocess.co.uk/teacher-accreditation/

We've also got this ↓

For the best self-guided learning, check out the Vocal Process Learning Lounge - 22 years of vocal coaching resources (over 600 videos) for less than the price of one private singing lesson.
https://vocalprocess.co.uk/learning-lounge/

If you want to discover if our singing teacher training programme works for YOU, message us - we can share the process for joining Cohort25
https://www.cognitoforms.com/VocalProcess1/TheAccreditationProgramme

What's changing in musical theatre, and what needs to change? And what is authenticity in performance anyway? In their 100th episode, Gillyanne and Jeremy chat with singer researcher Guro von Germeten on her research into gender, authenticity and musical theatre.
How does taste influence your vocal training? How is gender identity challenging musical theatre casting?
Guro shares her passion on flexibility of vocal sounds, the role of recordings in musical theatre education, and the importance of providing a safe space for vocal experimentation
If you're passionate about musical theatre, join this podcast and discover how the industry is developing.
Perfect for singers, singing teachers and musical theatre enthusiasts wanting to innovate their craft

0:00 Authenticity versus believability
01:36 Students investigating musical taste
04:46 Taking time to explore in a masterclass
06:25 We're not aiming for perfect
08:42 Using recordings in musical theatre training
10:21 Analysing multiple singers in a role
12:02 Putting their recordings onto your voice
13:30 Singing is not just sound
15:53 Training, history and attractor states
19:14 What is authenticity for a singer?
22:12 Billie Eilish is a genre
23:32 Is authenticity just commitment?
28:12 Confidence, Clarity and Commitment
31:07 Who am I that listens?
32:48 Non-binary voice in musical theatre

Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and hit the bell icon for more insightful episodes. Leave a comment below on what inspired you the most from Guro's episode! 👇

Find out more about Guro
YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzMK7LpMRkYvfWTK1DynaKw
Instagram https://www.instagram.com/gurovongermeten/
Guro's full PhD Dissertation on The Omnivorous Voice can be found here: https://nmh.no/en/research/projects/guro-von-germeten-completed-phd


You can find out about our Teacher Pathway for singing teachers, vocal coaches and choir leaders here
https://vocalprocess.co.uk/teacher-accreditation/

We've also got this ↓

For the best self-guided learning, check out the Vocal Process Learning Lounge - 22 years of vocal coaching resources (over 600 videos) for less than the price of one private singing lesson.
Click on the link https://vocalprocess.co.uk/learning-lounge/learning-lounge-level-2-deep-dive/

If you want to discover if our singing teacher training programme works for YOU, message us - we can share the process for joining Cohort24. https://www.cognitoforms.com/VocalProcess1/TheAccreditationProgramme

Get the One Minute Voice Warmup app here, it's got a 4.9star rating
Appstore https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/one-minute-voice-warmup/id1212802251
Google Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.speechtools.warmup&hl=en_GB

Check out our Voice Journal, written with Rayvox's Oren Boder https://www.rayvox.co.uk/products/voice-journal?ref=VOCALPROCESS

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Join Dr Gillyanne Kayes and Jeremy Fisher in a fascinating and deep episode on the omnivorous voice, featuring Dr. Guro von Germerten.
Guro shares the highlights from her PhD on musical tastes and vocal techniques. From her emotional childhood experience as a pianist to her groundbreaking research on the omnivorous voice, Guro discusses the complexities of taste, tradition, and cultural expectations in musical performance. From the process of PhD defence in Europe, to the concept of musical omnivorousness, and the hidden problems of musical taste, this episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in music education, vocal performance, and the evolving dynamics of taste and authenticity in the arts.

00:00 Crushing dreams with a single comment
02:17 How did Gillyanne and Guro meet?
03:10 How a PhD defence works in Europe
05:36 The omnivorous voice
08:13 Cultural and ethical implications in Musical Theatre
13:24 Shortcutting in casting musicals
16:07 Uncovering your own biases
19:18 The role of taste in music and performance
27:08 A rebel with an accordian
31:17 Does the composer actually know?
33:30 Taste and values on the Accreditation Programme
35:22 We are also music lovers
38:30 When musical tastes collide


Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and hit the bell icon for more insightful episodes. Leave a comment below on what inspired you the most from Guro's episode! 👇

Find out more about Guro
YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzMK7LpMRkYvfWTK1DynaKw
Instagram https://www.instagram.com/gurovongermeten/
Guro's full PhD Dissertation on The Omnivorous Voice can be found here: https://nmh.no/en/research/projects/guro-von-germeten-completed-phd


You can find out about our Teacher Pathway for singing teachers, vocal coaches and choir leaders here
https://vocalprocess.co.uk/teacher-accreditation/

We've also got this ↓

For the best self-guided learning, check out the Vocal Process Learning Lounge - 22 years of vocal coaching resources (over 600 videos) for less than the price of one private singing lesson.
Click on the link https://vocalprocess.co.uk/learning-lounge/learning-lounge-level-2-deep-dive/

If you want to discover if our singing teacher training programme works for YOU, message us - we can share the process for joining Cohort24. https://www.cognitoforms.com/VocalProcess1/TheAccreditationProgramme

Get the One Minute Voice Warmup app here, it's got a 4.9star rating
Appstore https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/one-minute-voice-warmup/id1212802251
Google Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.speechtools.warmup&hl=en_GB

Check out our Voice Journal, written with Rayvox's Oren Boder https://www.rayvox.co.uk/products/voice-journal?ref=VOCALPROCESS

Find us - follow us on the socials!
🐦 Twitter - https://twitter.com/Vocalprocess
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📖 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/vocalprocess

DJ, singer-songwriter, vocal coach and inspiration Ruth Royall joins Gillyanne and Jeremy to share the amazing story behind the #KeepItReal movement and its impact on the drum and bass community.
In this episode:
The importance of self-confidence for artists and the crucial role of supportive networks.
Insights on artist mentoring and establishing your identity and boundaries in the music industry.
Ruth’s personal journey of touring while seven months pregnant and the unique challenges she faced.
The development and success of her new live dance music project, Royall Sound, and plans for the future.

Ruth’s candidness about her experiences, from dealing with unrealistic beauty standards to the realities of touring while pregnant, is both inspiring and empowering.

00:00 The Birth of #KeepItReal Movement
00:53 Welcome Back, Ruth Royall!
01:33 The Importance of Self-Confidence for Artists
03:57 The Impact of Positive Communities
12:13 Touring While Pregnant: Ruth's Experience
18:37 Introducing Royall Sound
22:22 Ruth's Latest Release: Electricity
25:15 Wrapping Up: Final Thoughts and Farewells

🔗 Links and Resources:

Follow Ruth Royall on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ruthroyall/
Listen to the Keep It Real Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/66Mx6plPp9Huj6oUqgYE8c?si=7238caf11c1a4fa8
Check out Ruth’s latest release "Electricity" on her label Royall Sound: Listen Here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mNFjQiPaQQ

Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and hit the bell icon for more insightful episodes. Leave a comment below on what inspired you the most from Ruth’s journey! 👇

#Podcast #MusicIndustry #RuthRoyall #KeepItReal #DrumAndBass #VocalCoaching #WomenInMusic #Confidence #Community #TouringWhilePregnant #RoyallSound

In this episode of 'This Is A Voice' podcast, Dr. Gillyanne Kayes and Jeremy Fisher are joined by singer-songwriter Ruth Royall. They discuss Ruth's diverse career journey, her pivot to become a prominent artist in the drum and bass genre during the lockdown, and her personal songwriting process.
Ruth shares insights on the importance of collaboration in the music industry, particularly within the drum and bass community. We play an excerpt from her song "Help You Stay", created in conjunction with Technimatic, and she shares the story behind the song and its emotional resonance.
We dive into how art and creativity work through collaboration, vulnerability, and personal experience for all of us, and we hear more about the communal and experimental nature of the drum and bass scene.

00:00 Introduction to Songwriting and Creativity
01:51 Ruth's Musical Journey
03:37 Pivot During Lockdown
04:34 Exploring Drum and Bass
07:16 Collaboration and DJing
11:02 Understanding Drum and Bass
13:48 Help You Stay (song with Technimatic)
18:44 Songwriting Process
20:16 Dreaming a complete song
24:17 Trust the word vomit
26:51 Collaborative musician

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Find out more about Ruth Royall on Instagram and TikTok (ruthroyallmusic)
All Ruth's music is on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/artist/68mfV6tyHCTHZrNWNbVXmu?si=imypgyElRYGjR75OX7nRuA

Or iTunes:
https://music.apple.com/gb/artist/ruth-royall/282081141

You can find out about our Teacher Pathway for singing teachers, vocal coaches and choir leaders here
https://vocalprocess.co.uk/teacher-accreditation/

We've also got this ↓

For the best self-guided learning, check out the Vocal Process Learning Lounge - 22 years of vocal coaching resources (over 600 videos) for less than the price of one private singing lesson.
Click on the link https://vocalprocess.co.uk/learning-lounge/learning-lounge-level-2-deep-dive/

If you want to discover if our singing teacher training programme works for YOU, message us - we can share the process for joining Cohort24. https://www.cognitoforms.com/VocalProcess1/TheAccreditationProgramme

Get the One Minute Voice Warmup app here, it's got a 4.9star rating
Appstore https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/one-minute-voice-warmup/id1212802251
Google Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.speechtools.warmup&hl=en_GB

Check out our Voice Journal, written with Rayvox's Oren Boder https://www.rayvox.co.uk/products/voice-journal?ref=VOCALPROCESS

Find us - follow us on the socials!
🐦 Twitter - https://twitter.com/Vocalprocess
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📖 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/vocalprocess

Jeremy Fisher launches his new book called "Just How Boring Are you? How to be a great podcast guest, captivate your listeners and polish your vocal skills".
In this bonus podcast episode Jeremy is interviewed by Karen Merstik-Michaels - singer, musician, social media manager and podcast host, on why he wrote the book and what potential podcast guests can learn from it

0:00 A bonus podcast episode
01:07 Overcoming crippling shyness
02:49 Applying music skills to spoken voice
03:37 Why podcasting is different from public speaking
05:24 Jeremy's first big radio interview - a lesson
06:19 Most common mistake for podcast guests
11:07 Five Minute Vocal Warmup + Microsoft Headquarters
16:53 Harvard research on hating the sound of your voice
18:29 The worst habit Jeremy has changed
20:00 "Not just my opinion" - Jeremy's special interviews

You can get your copy of the ebook "Just How Boring Are You" PLUS all the Mp3s of the Five Minute Vocal Warmup on this link: https://bit.ly/JustHowBoringAreYou


You can find out about our Teacher Pathway for singing teachers, vocal coaches and choir leaders here
https://vocalprocess.co.uk/teacher-accreditation/

We've also got this ↓

For the best self-guided learning, check out the Vocal Process Learning Lounge - 22 years of vocal coaching resources (over 600 videos) for less than the price of one private singing lesson.
Click on the link https://vocalprocess.co.uk/learning-lounge/learning-lounge-level-2-deep-dive/

If you want to discover if our singing teacher training programme works for YOU, message us - we can share the process for joining Cohort24. https://www.cognitoforms.com/VocalProcess1/TheAccreditationProgramme

Get the One Minute Voice Warmup app here, it's got a 4.9star rating
Appstore https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/one-minute-voice-warmup/id1212802251
Google Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.speechtools.warmup&hl=en_GB

Check out our Voice Journal, written with Rayvox's Oren Boder https://www.rayvox.co.uk/products/voice-journal?ref=VOCALPROCESS

Find us - follow us on the socials!
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This Is A Voice podcast S9 Ep6 focuses on our More Than a Masterclass experience at the Hamburg StimmSymposium last month.
Coaching a singer in the big belt number from the musical Vanara - Prayer To The Moon. How Jeremy changed her style with a single physical instruction. And why she needed less flow, not more to make the belt notes and approaches work.
And we share more highlights from the Symposium including an almost wordless epic warmup class from conductor Craig Anthony Lees, and a truth bomb from osteopath Jacob Lieberman

00:00 More Than a Masterclass in Hamburg
03:26 Getting the singer to feel an exercise
08:26 Changing the shape of a difficult song
10:33 Changing the vowel on a difficult note
12:44 Our process for giving a masterclass
14:36 Meeting our teachers for the first time
16:22 Craig Anthony Lees and Declan Davies warmup
18:53 Practical coaching for singing pedagogies
22:22 Putting it into practice with Cleo Laine
25:36 Jacob Lieberman drops a truth bomb about breathing
30:02 Beliefs, the diaphragm and little green men

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#ThisIsAVoice #VoiceEducation #diaphragm #Hamss #VoiceCoaching #masterclass

The Cleo Laine recording we refer to is On A Clear Day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSLxdLIoHj4

You can find out about our Teacher Pathway for singing teachers, vocal coaches and choir leaders here
https://vocalprocess.co.uk/teacher-accreditation/

We've also got this ↓

For the best self-guided learning, check out the Vocal Process Learning Lounge - 22 years of vocal coaching resources (over 600 videos) for less than the price of one private singing lesson.
Click on the link https://vocalprocess.co.uk/learning-lounge/learning-lounge-level-2-deep-dive/

If you want to discover if our singing teacher training programme works for YOU, message us - we can share the process for joining Cohort24. https://www.cognitoforms.com/VocalProcess1/TheAccreditationProgramme

Get the One Minute Voice Warmup app here, it's got a 4.9star rating
Appstore https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/one-minute-voice-warmup/id1212802251
Google Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.speechtools.warmup&hl=en_GB

Check out our Voice Journal, written with Rayvox's Oren Boder https://www.rayvox.co.uk/products/voice-journal?ref=VOCALPROCESS

Find us - follow us on the socials!
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In this landmark episode of This Is A Voice (S9 Ep5), Dr. Gillyanne Kayes and Jeremy Fisher take a stroll down memory lane to celebrate a remarkable 25 years since founding their voice education company VocalProcess. From being the UK's first private company to pioneer online voice webinars to sharing insights from their latest experience at the esteemed Hamburg StimmSymposium, this episode is packed with nostalgia, innovation, and forward-thinking in the world of voice education.

What to expect in this episode:
- A heartfelt look back at our journey and key milestones
- Our groundbreaking work in voice education and online learning
- Exclusive highlights and takeaways from the Hamburg StimmSymposium
- Fun anecdotes and a peek into what it's like running a company as a married couple

00:00 25 years together
05:23 Hamburger StimmSymposium - Do we speak German?
08:05 Highlights Day One
12:09 Diagnosis and causality
18:18 Highlights Day Two
21:07 Breathing for singing
23:07 Breathing, speaking & singing compared
25:38 The round table on “support”
29:04 What does support mean to you?
34:51 More than a masterclass – the Bond theme
37:44 Billie Eilish, am I prejudiced?
44:42 God made high notes louder so you don’t have to

Whether you're a voice coach, an aspiring singer, or a long-time listener, this episode offers something for everyone. Join us as we reflect, celebrate the past and look towards the future of voice education.

Remember to subscribe to stay updated with "This is a Voice" podcast episodes, and share your thoughts and stories with us on social media!

#ThisIsAVoice #VoiceEducation #AnniversarySpecial #Hamss #VoiceCoaching #PodcastCelebration

You can find out about our Teacher Pathway for singing teachers, vocal coaches and choir leaders here
https://vocalprocess.co.uk/teacher-accreditation/

We've also got this ↓

For the best self-guided learning, check out the Vocal Process Learning Lounge - 22 years of vocal coaching resources (over 600 videos) for less than the price of one private singing lesson.
Click on the link https://vocalprocess.co.uk/learning-lounge/learning-lounge-level-2-deep-dive/

If you want to discover if our singing teacher training programme works for YOU, message us - we can share the process for joining Cohort24. https://www.cognitoforms.com/VocalProcess1/TheAccreditationProgramme

Get the One Minute Voice Warmup app here, it's got a 4.9star rating
Appstore https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/one-minute-voice-warmup/id1212802251
Google Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.speechtools.warmup&hl=en_GB

Check out our brand new Voice Journal, written with Rayvox's Oren Boder https://www.rayvox.co.uk/products/voice-journal?ref=VOCALPROCESS

Find us - follow us on the socials!
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